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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Novel by Trans Woman author features death of JK Rowling, removal of womb from Black Woman

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Misstache · 18/04/2022 01:53

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How is this ok? Enslaved Black women were actually subjected to no-anaesthesia hysterectomies, something it took years for the medical establishment to acknowledge, and longer to remove the statue of the w fire male doctor who tortured these women, but it’s ok to put that in a book? It’s ok to fantasize about killing actual women? So if we say “I’m not sure people who have been through male puberty should compete in Women’s categories in sports that’s “literal Genocide,” but a whole novel sadistically murdering and raping women is fine and progressive and can be sold?

This actually makes me sick.

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Misstache · 18/04/2022 01:55

That should be “white male doctor” not w fire whatever that means.

I’m actually sickened by this.

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Kanaloa · 18/04/2022 01:59

Gross. Only upvote is that I can’t imagine anyone will buy it - I imagine it’s total trash. Worrying what you can get away with though. I hope it gets brought to as many people’s attention as possible. I’m not a fan of ‘torture horror’ at the best of times and often I think (even stuff like Hostel etc) it’s not good.

Kanaloa · 18/04/2022 02:04

Plus I believe it references/makes a joke of an actual murdered family of two women and their little boy. Which just… isn’t really funny or appropriate novel material.

But then this author is a man who’s openly said rape ‘isn’t that bad’ and he’s never written anything ‘without at least one rape in it.’ I mean yuck. The book also features scenes obviously inspired by ‘sissy porn’ where little boys are forced to wear dresses. Who is going to buy it? Who is going to read it?

nepeta · 18/04/2022 02:05

It has been positively reviewed at the NPR (the closest to the BBC) in the US. By a trans man. No reference to the misogyny which colours every single thing in the story, but JK Rowling and her nasty troops are in it and make sex slaves out of the transwomen. The latter then kill the former in all sorts of gruesome ways.

This is now progressive.

Misstache · 18/04/2022 02:12

I know it shouldn’t surprise me, but it’s so creepy and disgusting that this can be in plain sight and reviewed positively, meanwhile Rowling includes like 2 throwaway sentences about a serial killer wearing a woman’s coat and every major media outlet blares that she’s horrifyingly transphobic.

I honestly hope she has security. If I were her I would be terrified. How is this not revenge porn?

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nepeta · 18/04/2022 02:18

@Misstache

I know it shouldn’t surprise me, but it’s so creepy and disgusting that this can be in plain sight and reviewed positively, meanwhile Rowling includes like 2 throwaway sentences about a serial killer wearing a woman’s coat and every major media outlet blares that she’s horrifyingly transphobic.

I honestly hope she has security. If I were her I would be terrified. How is this not revenge porn?

Had this been written by an incel it would be seen as it truly is: A nightmarish wish to kill and rape women, pretty much. It equates women saying 'no' to anything at all with an attempt to exterminate all transgender people and it has scenes where one of the transwomen watches the other one prepare to kill a TERF and the former gets an erection from that.

It is truly shocking that extremely vicious and open misogyny is now viewed as part of a progressive social justice movement.

Kanaloa · 18/04/2022 02:20

Yes I would be frightened myself if I was her, although I hate to say that. Some of these people are utterly unhinged and I can see them becoming sort of cult heroes amongst the rest of the insane people if they did attempt anything. I mean a trans person accused of murdering a family is painted as a hero in this novel - it’s not a million miles away is it?

She seems cool as a cucumber though. Like she doesn’t seem frightened or anything. I always wondered how she came to writing these characters who just face up to terrifying things without worrying but I suppose she must be that type of person who is just so brave that it doesn’t seem that amazing to her. I suppose also she can stand on her talent. She’s a real writer, not just writing her weird sexual/violent criminal fantasies poorly.

Misstache · 18/04/2022 02:33

And given 2/3rds of that family was black it seems like this writer is also a vicious racist. Where’s all the TRAs with BLM in their profiles now?

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Absurdle · 18/04/2022 03:47

make sex slaves out of the transwomen

Wow. There’s a lot to be said but to avoid deletion I will restrain myself to AHAHAHAHAHA.

OMG… I just saw the author photo.

HAAAAAAA

LK1972 · 18/04/2022 04:01

@Absurdle

make sex slaves out of the transwomen

Wow. There’s a lot to be said but to avoid deletion I will restrain myself to AHAHAHAHAHA.

OMG… I just saw the author photo.

HAAAAAAA

They do hope don't they, yuck
MarshmallowSwede · 18/04/2022 06:31

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TheCurrywurstPrion · 18/04/2022 06:31

@Kanaloa

Gross. Only upvote is that I can’t imagine anyone will buy it - I imagine it’s total trash. Worrying what you can get away with though. I hope it gets brought to as many people’s attention as possible. I’m not a fan of ‘torture horror’ at the best of times and often I think (even stuff like Hostel etc) it’s not good.
It’s got a high star rating, with many five star reviews from verified purchases on Amazon. Obviously you can organise that if you have a big enough network, but anyone looking at it would probably conclude it’s going to do well, and it might well be that it wasn’t organised at all, but is genuinely popular.
Xiaoxiong · 18/04/2022 06:36

I can't see the tweet as apparently the content is so grim it's been hidden by Twitter for my protection Confused what's the book?

DifficultBloodyWoman · 18/04/2022 06:39

So apparently not every author requires a sensitivity reader.

FFS!

TheGreatATuin · 18/04/2022 06:50

The extraordinary and worrying thing is that this wasn't self-published. It appears to have been published by Tor which is a decent size and long standing publisher.
Some all the commissioning editors, copy editors and proof readers etc read this book that graphically illustrates women being horrifically raped, tortured and murdered and presumably no one said, "Um, should we really be publishing this?".
It's really quite extraordinary how the combination of 'trans' and it being women who are subjected to it somehow makes it okay.
If you remove the trans and sex and gender aspects, then what you have is a book in which white people rape, murder and torture black people, but because its got 'gender' pasted over it, somehow that's now invisible.
I'm so fed up with this shit. I really am.

TheGreatATuin · 18/04/2022 06:52

It's this one.
www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53329296-manhunt

Igmum · 18/04/2022 06:53

Utterly vile. How the hell was this published? Why is it being sold? It's also drivel. I'm reassured by the Twitter comments which are almost all negative but OMG this is awful.

Cailleach1 · 18/04/2022 07:21

If that is the book, one of the reviews says that it was 'review bombed before it's release. Also it appears some have said it is great because it is about trans people or was written by a trans person.

MoltenLasagne · 18/04/2022 07:39

What does review bombing mean?

Rightsraptor · 18/04/2022 07:44

Some reiews are 10 months old, so it's been out a while. And there are some unfavourable reviews. I don't think all is lost because this awful-sounding book it out there. Far too many books are published IMHO and this is one of them, no doubt.

Cailleach1 · 18/04/2022 07:51

@MoltenLasagne

What does review bombing mean?
I think technically it usually means a negative pile on for purposes other than the literary merit of the book. I think in this case that it is akin to 'love bombing'; as I think in this case it was a positive reviewing of the book for purposes other than the literary merit of the book.
Theunamedcat · 18/04/2022 08:04

Wow

MoltenLasagne · 18/04/2022 08:37

Cailleach1 thank you for clarifying - I did think it sounded negative to start so I was confused.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/04/2022 08:51

The 72% 5* reviews on Amazon suggest a lot of people are buying and reading it unfortunately.

Cuck00soup · 18/04/2022 08:52

Not going to click the link because I don’t want to contribute to any rise in listings but this kind of shit shows, once again, how much men hate women. Not just the author, it’s every step of the publishing and selling process.