Novel by Trans Woman author features death of JK Rowling, removal of womb from Black Woman

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How is this ok? Enslaved Black women were actually subjected to no-anaesthesia hysterectomies, something it took years for the medical establishment to acknowledge, and longer to remove the statue of the w fire male doctor who tortured these women, but it’s ok to put that in a book? It’s ok to fantasize about killing actual women? So if we say “I’m not sure people who have been through male puberty should compete in Women’s categories in sports that’s “literal Genocide,” but a whole novel sadistically murdering and raping women is fine and progressive and can be sold?

This actually makes me sick.

Not available at Smiths or Waterstones. Just Amazon?

I suspect all they have to do is say to a legal challenge is that it's fiction. You can commit basically any crime in a book.

I doubt JK would sue or what the grounds would be. Maybe harrassment? That's the only angle I could see being potentially productive? I'm sure she has excellent lawyers but I think she picks her battles very carefully.

It's published by Nightfire, which seems to be Tor's Horror imprint.

Tor used to publish some of my favourite authors. I hope that's no longer the case.

Could be defamation. And that can work internationally - Scarlett Johansson successfully sued a French writer.

www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-scarlett-johansson-wins-case-against-bestselling-french-novelist-20140707-story.html

'In the book, a mechanic who doesn’t have much luck with women is stunned to see Johansson stride into his garage. Turns out she’s not actually Johansson -- she’s a look-alike model. She laments being seen as a sex object, has two affairs, several adventures and comes to an unfortunate end.

'I wrote a real love story and a homage to feminine beauty'

'A French judge has agreed with Johansson (the real one) that the book is defamatory. He dismissed a second claim that it fraudulently exploited her image, celebrity and name.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10737117/Trans-authors-book-kills-JK-Rowling-Backlash-Harry-Potter-writers-fictional-death.html

But if we say it's okay to ban books we don't like, we have to say it's okay to ban books we DO like. And if we say it's okay to ban books, we're going to be fucked. Because the books that'll get banned will be the ones by Helen Joyce or Julie Bindel or whichever other woman is saying the 'wrong' thing. Even JKR could have her books banned if we are banning books.

I didn’t say I thought it was okay to ban books I ‘don’t like.’ I said I think it’s acceptable to refuse to publish books/have books banned when they feature and glorify the murder and rape of real life people (one of whom is a child murder victim in real life).

I don’t think Rowling, Joyce, or Bindel have ever done that.

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Yep, I think people are seeing it being promoted and buying as a result... but unfortunately they definitely enjoy the content too.

Quick search of the user... they clearly know their audience.

‘ It’s got a high star rating, with many five star reviews from verified purchases on Amazon. Obviously you can organise that if you have a big enough network, but anyone looking at it would probably conclude it’s going to do well, and it might well be that it wasn’t organised at all, but is genuinely popular.’

ignorenit and don’t give it oxygen. It’s ratings are high in MLGBTQ+ Horror which is so niche That could literally mean 50 books sold.

Oh good call. Yes, I remember that.

I don’t see why this is not being treated as a threat or a hate crime? Really hoping JKR will sue.

The author is American, so it depends on how their laws are as well as UK laws, I imagine. A subject for specialist lawyers. Of which I'm very sure JKR has access to.

I don't get this, I thought that publishers jumped through hoops to make sure characters in books didn't resemble anyone in real life?

What book fantasising about Rowling's death tells us about publishers
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From Julie Bindel.

Tor is part of Macmillan!

US laws are very different, it's why so many people try to bring their action in the UK.

The book has been out for some time. I should think that the author would welcome publicity and any acquired martyr status.

I rely upon JKR's judgment as to appropriate actions that she would like to see.

How stupid do you have to be to think you can ensure the survival of the species by killing the actual women?

Not that I would waste my time buying that book or anything else that person writes.

I do read horror, zompoc etc.. but that is just the badly written ramblings of someone who comes across as very disturbed.

I will not buy another book from Tor Nightfire for as long as that is in print no matter who the author is.

I believe it is almost impossible in the US for JK Rowling to sue the author. IANAL but I think there is a concept of someone being a public figure which matters here. Private persons can sue for defamation but the bar is very very high for public figures who must prove actual malice.

One source: www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1010/public-figures-and-officials

How stupid do you have to be to think you can ensure the survival of the species by killing the actual women?

This kind of mindset has no longterm thinking, or care or consideration for anything or anyone but self gratification. Me, Now, I want, thwart me and you'll be sorry. It's the behaviour of a toddler stunted in a large body. An adult should be ashamed of themselves, but there isn't even the self awareness or sufficient ability to step away from the ego to realise how this appears to others or that there's anything wrong with it.

As a society we're going to have to get a whole lot better at managing and having boundaries with adults with capacity issues such as this.

Possibly inspired by this book, a clubhouse space (type of social media, for talking to others- like a group telephone call) with a truly horrendous name has been spotted and screencapped

I'm not willing to upload it here, because it is that bad.

I saw this nasty, hateful post on the Instagram reel of an account that is all about body positivity, anti-bullying, 'kindness' and trans awareness (one half of the couple is a transwoman). They've criticised JKR before and some comments have been foul but this, in my opinion, really crossed the line. They are basically saying they love the 'concept' of JKR being burned alive at her home! And to top it off have the audacity (and the lack of critical thinking skills) to say 'once again JK makes it all about her again'. WTF - it IS about her! As far as I know JKR herself hasn't said anything publicly about this book. I reported the post as hate speech to Instagram. How can this account not see the rank hypocrisy of this. Unbelievable.

It’s really nasty yet has the look of a 10-year-old’s scrapbook…odd!

Update on that screenshot of a discussion topic. It was a Clubhouse room. Clubhouse is like a chatroom, except it's audio, instead of people typing.

In the site's own words:

Clubhouse is a place for casual, drop-in audio chats. When you open the app you'll see "rooms" full of people talking, and have the opportunity to explore different conversations.

It’s a place to meet with friends and new people around the world—to tell stories, ask questions, debate, learn, and have impromptu conversations on thousands of different topics.

From Clubhouse FAQs

People on twitter did some digging to confirm that it had genuinely happened and has been corroborated. The room/room host had a history of targeting black women. Looks like the publication of Falkner-Martin's book and its scene with a black woman having her womb removed incited the host to plumb further depths.

Appalling that anyone at all would think or say such a thing, let alone put it in a book. And yet Macmillan, one of the Big Five publishing houses, with a reputation built on scientific and educative publishing, is fine with it.

This is the sort of thing that the censors used to be able to stop in films and books but the freedom of speech lobbying was taken over by manipulative certain types with loathsome agendas.