12yr old non-binary girl wants to stop periods, group admin suggests a hystorectomy

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From Colin Wright@swipe wright on twitter

From the Facebook group "Parents of Trans/Non-Binary Kids" with over 9K members.

Parent posts that her "nonbinary" or "gender fluid" 12yo female child wants to stop her period (you don't say!).

Group Admin replies and suggests, among other things, a HYSTERECTOMY.

The other pathways of blockers and testosterone also seem very extreme for a 12 year old girl who is 'non-binary'.

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This is foul. Puberty and sexual maturity aren’t decision processes, they are core to the design of the human body. This promotes self-hatred and needs to stop.

I can't believe I just read that a 12 year old is being told to have a hysterectomy. World has gone completely mad.

So women can have penises but NB females or trans boys can't have periods ?

The way this is all deemed the solution over just telling the kid the truth about theor sex, puberty etc is shocking.

So many adults keen to help create legal adults with the bodies of children

If someone had told me at 13 that I could have a surgery to get rid of periods forever, I would done it in an instant. I would have lied and said I understood the long term consequences even though I wouldn't have.

When I was about 15 I broke my tailbone and was refused an x ray for diagnosis because of the risk of damage to my ovaries. I was sure I didn’t want kids (and this turned out to be correct in the long term) but they just laughed. If you’d offered me a hysterectomy to get rid of periods and any pregnancy risk, I’d have snapped your hand off and had no idea of the long term implications.

Sadly I think that this is on lots of the LGBTQAlphabetSoup+ chats - they seem to chat about how awful periods are, how they 'know' they don't want to have child and periods are a pain and want a hysterectomy. I have told DD3 so many times that it is not that simple/it is a major operation/major decision/etc etc but the echo chamber keeps telling girls from about the age of 12 onwards that they can 'fix' all their issues/get rid of period pain and the hassle every month with a bit of surgery.

Yet back in the real world adult women are having to fight tooth and nail to have hysterectomies, even when they have medical conditions that mean they would improve their quality of life. A lesbian friend of mine, who's been happily married to a woman for 15 years was told by her Dr that she shouldn't have a hysterectomy in case "you divorce your wife and marry a man" ffs

And why does non-binary mean 'stereotypical male'. All the NB teen girls i know are cutting all their hair off, using traditionally male names and wearing traditionally boys clothes. (Of course girls can have short hair and wear what they want, I'm not saying that they can't. But I don't know any NB girls who still want to 'look like girls')

My husband's GP wouldn't book him for a vasectomy because he was under 40 years of age and we only have one child (age 13 at the time). We ended up paying for him to have it done privately.

And yet people are blithely suggesting 12 year olds have hysterectomies.

Would this be classed as some kind of FGM? It should be.

I have told DD3 so many times that it is not that simple/it is a major operation/major decision/etc etc but the echo chamber keeps telling girls from about the age of 12 onwards that they can 'fix' all their issues/get rid of period pain and the hassle every month with a bit of surgery

Strange considering the group of adult males on medication who apparently have or want periods and openly discuss it online.

Periods are something simultaneously the worst dysphoria inducing occurrence and actively disccused/sought after.

Strange that. It's a little bit like it's " if I cant have them no one can"

But I don't know any NB girls who still want to 'look like girls')

Likewise, I don't. My caveat is that most of the NBs that I know are in their teens (and in school) and have all opted for male names and 'male presenting'. However, I have seen older NBs who are asserting themselves as AFAB, NB, and "female presenting".

Afab female presenting non binary living in the Paris area in France: this is exactly the same for me and for countless of our sisters and siblings everywhere…

There also now seems to be a wordgame around "presenting femme" and "presenting masc" as well as transfem and transmasc.

Yeah casually throw a suggestion of major surgery with massive repercussions at a twelve year old child ffs.

Irresponsibility to whole new levels.

No surgical team would perform a hysterectomy on a 12 year old girl

@SnowRoses

No surgical team would perform a hysterectomy on a 12 year old girl

I genuinely thought this about removing their breasts.

Unfortunately...

It took me 20 years to get a hysterectomy as an adult woman, who wanted it in order to be free of pain and had already made an informed, adult decision, to remain childfree.

The idea that 12 year old non-binary children can get them on demand is bizarre.

Whether or not a dr would do them its still not something that should be suggested to a child or to the parents of that child. Even talking about it means you are affirming that the child's body is wrong. That's not even something trans charities think any more. That the bodies are wrong.

You can be non binary with periods and breasts right? Of adult males can declare they are women whilst making no changes whatsoever why are we indulging children thinking they need to bind their breasts amd stop their periods.

Awful. This poor child.

The flippancy of the idea - oh, you don’t like having periods, never mind, you can have a hysterectomy

Not to mention what this will do to the child and their relationship with the adults around them.

How do you think.its going to go when people like this admin , fill their heads with the ideas if all these " options " only then for thr child to be faced with the reality that no one can or will pay up to do it/take them somewhere that will do it, it obviously will create an.extremely precarious situation where parents and drs are the enemies and the only ones who get it are these Internet people

It plays in to the shopping list for treatment that we've seen in the Webberley tribunal.

Why is it always surgery and blockers rather than the pill without a break week?

Why is most harm the first option with these people?

When I was 12 and had period pains, advice was: hot water bottle/bath/walk. And my grandma gave me a tot of brandy

@MattDamon

If someone had told me at 13 that I could have a surgery to get rid of periods forever, I would done it in an instant. I would have lied and said I understood the long term consequences even though I wouldn't have.

This!

Ffs i probably would have done anything not to have periods at that age

its bloody dangerous talk

It's impossible to be a non-binary girl

Whoever decided it was a good idea to teach children about all these strange gender types has a lot to answer for.