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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Phillips disappointing again in The Telegraph

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 07:43

Another long piece about Jess in which she plays up her feminist credentials and side-steps the central feminist issue of the age (paywall).

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/04/09/jess-phillips-no-trans-person-met-has-said-cant-say-woman/

I’m very conflicted about Phillips. She does so much for women and I have to respect that, but on this issue she seems to hide in the tall grass and I don’t understand her reasons.

Big straw man in this article: “no trans person I’ve met has said we can’t say woman”.

Nobody is saying they have. We’re saying some trans activists and their sympathisers say we can’t associate the word woman with the class of (to quote Lavery - at least useful for something) organically occurring people we call “female”. The argument is we can say woman, but we can’t say “pregnant women” unless we also say “and birthing persons”, or we can say woman, but we might be referring to a woman with prostate cancer.

And if JP as a feminist has nothing to say about a) the strategic divorce of those two concepts and b) the policing of what we as a class of people are allowed to say, and when, then I lose a lot of my patience with her.

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FOJN · 09/04/2022 07:45

It's been a long time since Jess has been anything other than disappointing and not just in the Telegraph.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/04/2022 08:02

Looking the other way and selective denial is really the only option for Labour women. Acknowledging the batshittery and sheer anti women stances of the Starmers, Lammys, Nandys and all the rest would be both embarrassing and painful.
Whether this party can drag itself out of this fantasy anti science swamp that they've created remains to be seen.

tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 08:07

It doesn’t look like it. Looks they’ve nominated Thornberry to be a bit of a terrier on trans rights while everyone else tries to change the conversation to Sunak.

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