Newsnight - anyone watching?

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Anyone watching the Newsnight? Just wondering who is the Trans person speaking at the mo - not Debbie H, the other one.

yes. Never seen the other person.
I was very disappointed in Kirsty Wark's approach with the TRA, who was speaking about how important therapy was to young people who thought they were trans. But quite evidently believed that they should only be affirmative. If KW knew her stuff she would have pinned her down on this instead of just doing a load of nodding,
Unfortunately I also think Debbie Hayton was clear enough. If I didn't already know the nuts and bolts of this subject, I would have come away none the wiser

wasn't clear enough, I meant

Yvy DeLuca

If I remember rightly KW is full TWAW.

I got the impression that Kirsty Work was trying to generate a sense of outrage but it didn't happen. I have to say that I lost concentration when DeLuca was speaking.

KW is useless on this, as on most issues requiring any degree of intellectual rigour.

Who is Deluca? Never heard of them.

Conversion therapy is wrong. Completely wrong. But that isn’t the issue here, I think the meaning has been hijacked.

@Tiphaine

If I remember rightly KW is full TWAW.

As a Scot there's probably no other option if she ever wants to visit her family again…

Why on earth couldn't Newsnight have interviewed Sinead Watson rather than DH?

I thought Debbie presented the issues very well but KW was obviously asking more challenging questions to Debbie whereas KW went all soft on DeLuca who got the easy touch.

It's a shame they couldn't have had a detransitioner on too to show the reason why the government needs to legislate cautiously around this issue.

It's a shame they couldn't have had a detransitioner on too to show the reason why the government needs to legislate cautiously around this issue.

That's why I thought Sinead Watson would have been a good choice.

Thanks all - I agree that Debbie got a much tougher line of questioning.

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

It's a shame they couldn't have had a detransitioner on too to show the reason why the government needs to legislate cautiously around this issue.

That's why I thought Sinead Watson would have been a good choice.

Sinead Watson would have been excellent as would Keira Bell.

Does anyone else miss Emily Maitliss? She was much more ready to ask tough questions on any topic.

I had the impression from past interviews that Emily was concerned about the children being treated at the Tavistock and she seemed to have a good grasp of the sex/gender issues.

@Qwill

Conversion therapy is wrong. Completely wrong. But that isn’t the issue here, I think the meaning has been hijacked.

Yes. I saw some information put out about some cases a few days back, obviously designed to cause outrage, but the one I read in full was from fifty or so years ago, and I thought while reading it, that if that was the best evidence they could come up with, it really wasn’t relevant to laws being made now. The agenda was obvious though. They were painting “conversion therapy” as something heinous involving ECT when we are concerned that what will end up being banned is watchful waiting, which was the gold standard treatment for gender identity disorder much more recently than the ancient and irrelevant case.