Tara Hewitt Head of 'Equality Diversion & Inclusion' at Northern Care Alliance advising NHS leaders to ignore EHRCs recent guidance.

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Tara Hewitt who holds a senior position within the NHS, is advising CEOs, Chief medical officers and others within the NHS to blatantly ignore new guidance from EHRC regarding single sex provision of services. Claiming it is transphobic. This will not end well...the NHS is there to serve all of us, not just males and their identities. The fact they feel emboldened to do this publicly on twitter is shocking.

If the NHS head of Equality and DIversity is actively putting half the population that use the NHS in actual danger, does this mean they are not fulfilling their role and as such, should be either disciplined or dismissed?

Perhaps there should be professional standards ED&I staff. Perhaps the EHRC could issue suitable guidance on core skills and understanding, including an understanding of the Equalities Act.

Why are raped women not to be permitted help, by males, on the sheer dog in the manger grounds that even though those male people's needs are met by multiple choices of sensitive options, the mere existence of a female only resource somewhere in the town is just too much to expect male people to tolerate?

Precisely. It is too much.

Any female provision, anywhere, is anathema. The very fact that it excludes them is the sole reason that they want entry.

It's a horrible byproduct of this ideology that the more women require sex specific spaces due to trauma or vulnerability, the harder they are targeted.

It doesn't matter what the reason is for the provision. Anything that exists which is exclusively female must be repackaged and used. Even groups to support women who have miscarried.

Robin concluding that women's provision is dangerous nonsense is entirely understandable. Emphasising a law which categorically distinguishes transwomen as not women will feel dangerous to those who have been campaigning relentlessly to say they are.

I know most of the women here don't take what robin says very seriously. But it's not much of a surprise that stonewall has constantly been exposed as misrepresenting the law, when the likes of Robin are advising them.

But keep going, I say. Angrily rejecting perfectly acceptable solutions by the EHRC just shows up the fact that the spaces have zero to do with safety, and everything to do with male validation.

But keep going, I say. Angrily rejecting perfectly acceptable solutions by the EHRC just shows up the fact that the spaces have zero to do with safety, and everything to do with male validation.

Exactly.

It's a horrible byproduct of this ideology that the more women require sex specific spaces due to trauma or vulnerability, the harder they are targeted.

A perfect example of this is the Vancouver Rape Crisis centre which has been targeted by TRA solely because they offer a female only service. They are constantly harassed, have had funding cut and even had dead rats nailed to their doors. Men hate to be excluded.

Moreover, we should remember that Stonewall and all the trans advocacy groups have lobbied very hard to have the single sex exceptions removed from the Equality Act, so as far as they are concerned, women have no right to single sex spaces.

Moreover, we should remember that Stonewall and all the trans advocacy groups have lobbied very hard to have the single sex exceptions removed from the Equality Act, so as far as they are concerned, women have no right to single sex spaces.

At one point they were lobbying to have the removed while simultaneously denying they existed in any meaningful way.

Bloody hell Robin, surely you’ve got better than a self quote in Personnel Today? Acting as a rent-a-quote for a contrary position is not really adding to your credibility.

As for Tara, how can someone whose role is about inclusion and diversity be so unbelievably narrow in their view of who deserves their needs being considered?

Moreover, we should remember that Stonewall and all the trans advocacy groups have lobbied very hard to have the single sex exceptions removed from the Equality Act, so as far as they are concerned, women have no right to single sex spaces.

Yes. And then lied about it as Ereshkigalangcleg says.

They have, since the beginning, been pushing for a situation where women have no rights at all.

Publicly campaigning, in every aspect of society, and privately trying to do back room deals to change the actual law.

And now the EHRC putting their foot in the swiftly closing door has said no. Women matter too, you know.

Otherwise known as 'dangerous nonsense'.

@partystress

Bloody hell Robin, surely you’ve got better than a self quote in Personnel Today? Acting as a rent-a-quote for a contrary position is not really adding to your credibility.

As for Tara, how can someone whose role is about inclusion and diversity be so unbelievably narrow in their view of who deserves their needs being considered?

Because this is what cuckoos do. They push out the other chicks and demand all the resources.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

But keep going, I say. Angrily rejecting perfectly acceptable solutions by the EHRC just shows up the fact that the spaces have zero to do with safety, and everything to do with male validation.

Exactly.

Yep.

women for some people are just fantasy props. Not human beings, not to be afforded rights or listened to.

As Artichoke says, misogyny isn't even the right word for it. It's not just sexism, it's basing one's whole identity on a flat out clearly demonstrable untruth that is based on a profoundly sexist premise - that 'woman' is something males can define.

This only is believable if one treats 'woman' as an abstract notion, a feeling or an idea with no agency, rather than a category of human being - a mistaken belief that must be daily shored up, disbelief suspended - and not just one's own, but the disbelief of everyone around you.

Astonishing feat, really. I do doff my hat at those who have almost succeeded in pulling it off. Look at all that's been created to facilitate this! Organisations with bold slogans, celebrity cheerleaders, inspirational news stories with fairytale happy endings. Parades! Rainbow police cars! One could almost believe it were possible to actually change sex.

If only women would shut up and stop spoiling it. If only we'd smile and get on with the kid raising and the gruntwork, eh? Stop interrupting! After all the effort put into creating this enormously elaborate and intricate fantasy the least we could do is stay quiet and play along.

Blunt reality is an irritation, but it won't go away. Women are not blank slates, not terra incognito. We're human beings, with our own feelings, rights and preferences. Women say no.

Because this is what cuckoos do. They push out the other chicks and demand all the resources.

Exactly, this kind of selective "equality and diversity" is what has become the norm. Advocating for women's sex-based rights is something to be rejected whole heartedly.

'Equality' 'diversity' and 'inclusion' have been redefined to be things for certain groups only.

Absolutely not for mere boring females.

Fuck that. Seriously, fuck that.

@NotBadConsidering

The strength of Robin’s arguments on Mumsnet over the years give me great hope for Allison Bailey’s court case.

“My Lord, I implore that the plaintiff’s claim is false, because I read something once that said it was false. The defence rests.”

"And it was I who wrote the thing what I read."

It's toxic envy. Pure, cold envy.

It's not enough to wear the clothes.

It's insistence on the bludgeoning of belief into our heads. It's a complete disregard to safeguarding. It's a hard cynical hatred of women. A hatred of children. A hatred of the relationship between families.

Robin, Tara and the rest of this anti-women brigade have converted me from the live and let live attitude that I used to have towards transsexuals back in the day, to where I am today. Now I am bloody angry. This latest debacle by people PAID to ensure inclusion in the NHS has further infuriated me. I’ve just joined my local Women’s Rights Network. I’ve raised my head above the parapet at work for the first time (and been supported). I’m educating my children in no uncertain terms that you cannot change sex. You could say I’ve been radicalised but it ain’t Mumsnet what did it, it is these males in plain sight trying to tear down our single sex protections. It was #nodebate for many years and I, like others, was afraid to speak. So much has changed in the last few years and the law is now clearly on our side (it always was but Stonewall obfuscated it). Robin I am nobody, but I am also #everywoman and you can no longer railroad us with your dangerous nonsense. We are all speaking out now and we won’t be silenced. The NHS will be held to account here, all of us women will see to it that it is.

women for some people are just fantasy props. Not human beings, not to be afforded rights or listened to.

As Artichoke says, misogyny isn't even the right word for it. It's not just sexism, it's basing one's whole identity on a flat out clearly demonstrable untruth that is based on a profoundly sexist premise - that 'woman' is something males can define.

This only is believable if one treats 'woman' as an abstract notion, a feeling or an idea with no agency, rather than a category of human being - a mistaken belief that must be daily shored up, disbelief suspended - and not just one's own, but the disbelief of everyone around you.

Astonishing feat, really. I do doff my hat at those who have almost succeeded in pulling it off. Look at all that's been created to facilitate this! Organisations with bold slogans, celebrity cheerleaders, inspirational news stories with fairytale happy endings. Parades! Rainbow police cars! One could almost believe it were possible to actually change sex.

If only women would shut up and stop spoiling it. If only we'd smile and get on with the kid raising and the gruntwork, eh? Stop interrupting! After all the effort put into creating this enormously elaborate and intricate fantasy the least we could do is stay quiet and play along.

Blunt reality is an irritation, but it won't go away. Women are not blank slates, not terra incognito. We're human beings, with our own feelings, rights and preferences. Women say no.

Brilliantly put.

The concept of men inventing a being, let's call it, for their own gratification, be it sexual or otherwise, and then calling it a woman, is difficult to explain.

But that's what's happened.

They have invented an entity, to serve them, which bears absolutely zero resemblance to the entity after whom they're calling it. Women.

But they need women in order to validate it. We, the reality, have to rubberstamp the fantasy.

We are nothing, we just occasionally need to be used in the service of maintaining The Fantasy.

This is why the absolute rage at calling the fantasy, men, making a distinction between the fantasy and women, stating that sex is binary, and saying you can't change it. All of it results in meltdown.

And the one thing that these men never, ever experience, much less understand, is that solidarity between a woman and other women. It doesn't rely on a fantasy.

And it happens all the time.

One of the most profound, non-verbal communications I ever experience is meeting the eye of another woman in certain situations that involve men.

That brief, intimate look speaks of countless millennia of eye rolling.

😁

Jane Clare Jones describes this as women being required to make themselves into blank mirrors, reflecting others.

There is no immorality in refusing to blank and erase yourself, your needs, your feelings, your humanity and reality, just in order to reflect back to someone what they wish to experience.

I wonder how much money is going into the ED&I industry. All those people training staff is various professions across the country, schools, police, NHS and more. Those senior ED&I jobs like Tara’s in law firm, the Civil Service and so on. Those wheeled out for transgender day of remembrance at universities. Consultancies like Ruth Kelly’s or Stonewall. Grants to Mermaids and others. Legal experts like Robin presumably paid for their sage advice.

No wonder we should expect pushback. Livelihoods are at stake.

@Needmoresleep

I wonder how much money is going into the ED&I industry. All those people training staff is various professions across the country, schools, police, NHS and more. Those senior ED&I jobs like Tara’s in law firm, the Civil Service and so on. Those wheeled out for transgender day of remembrance at universities. Consultancies like Ruth Kelly’s or Stonewall. Grants to Mermaids and others. Legal experts like Robin presumably paid for their sage advice.

No wonder we should expect pushback. Livelihoods are at stake.

I would dearly love to see the qualifications and training.

Because I'll be staggered if those in jobs such as Hewitt have any knowledge or qualification or experience in any field at all but TQ+.

Hence the advice going out that implies there's 1 characteristic and not 9, no concept of what equality impact assessment is, and heavily implied reinterpretation to ensure that the protected 8 characteristics in no way impede the freedoms and choices of the 1.

I think it's less the ED&I industry than specific TQ+ groups, lobby groups and charities but yes, a lot of money involved.

All places booking training have been highly naive and frankly lazy in basic due diligence and checking qualifications, cross checking and fact checking before just wholesale importing thinking from a bought in group, and basic understanding of equality law/any real interest in the groups the law is there to protect. I've taken to saying at work, 'has anyone checked on x before this is bought in?' and seen a whole lot of 'shit.... never thought of that, we probably should, shouldn't we?' responses.

However tis the way of safeguarding. When it's finally realised that loopholes are being vigorously exploited, those loopholes are closed and society gets more cynical, more suspicious and builds stronger boundaries. It only ever works until everyone wises up to it.

Ah yes, I remember them well. I think they are now losing the argument. And by concentrating on one protected characteristic, many other groups are losing out too. This has to change before anyone can move on.

Liveliferun, brilliantly put. #metoo

this is what cuckoos do. They push out the other chicks and demand all the resources

Such a good allusion.

The lack of due diligence is such a massive issue.
What are your qualifications for advising on the medical treatment of children confused about their sex? none - just self interest
What are your qualifications in risk assessment, VAWG when advising that known sex offenders can be housed on wards with women? none, just self interest
What are your qualifications for advising on school policy, pastoral care, parenting and safeguarding in relation to children confused about their sex? none, just self interest

Rinse and repeat.

@MrsOvertonsWindow

The lack of due diligence is such a massive issue. What are your qualifications for advising on the medical treatment of children confused about their sex? none - just self interest What are your qualifications in risk assessment, VAWG when advising that known sex offenders can be housed on wards with women? none, just self interest What are your qualifications for advising on school policy, pastoral care, parenting and safeguarding in relation to children confused about their sex? none, just self interest

Rinse and repeat.

This.

The policy changes you advise impact upon females with the protected characteristic of disability, what qualifications and experience of advising on equality/inclusion for this group do you have?
None?
Ok, well your advice impacts also on safeguarding and would require adapting our policy, what training and qualific- ok,
Well how about female people with the protected characteristics of belief, faith, culture? What role have you played in charities and local authorities in meeting the needs of marginalised females and increasing their participation in public life for better outcomes- ah.

But you'd like us to change our policy and practice anyway to your advice, which incidentally advantages the one characteristic you both represent and have a personal stake in?

And you'd rather we didn't check any facts, or speak with anyone else and - oh how helpful you'll write the policy for us?

Groups and services really have been this stupid.

@Liveliferun

Robin, Tara and the rest of this anti-women brigade have converted me from the live and let live attitude that I used to have towards transsexuals back in the day, to where I am today. Now I am bloody angry. This latest debacle by people PAID to ensure inclusion in the NHS has further infuriated me. I’ve just joined my local Women’s Rights Network. I’ve raised my head above the parapet at work for the first time (and been supported). I’m educating my children in no uncertain terms that you cannot change sex. You could say I’ve been radicalised but it ain’t Mumsnet what did it, it is these males in plain sight trying to tear down our single sex protections. It was #nodebate for many years and I, like others, was afraid to speak. So much has changed in the last few years and the law is now clearly on our side (it always was but Stonewall obfuscated it). Robin I am nobody, but I am also #everywoman and you can no longer railroad us with your dangerous nonsense. We are all speaking out now and we won’t be silenced. The NHS will be held to account here, all of us women will see to it that it is.

All of this , I'm a longtime lurker don't post as I'm rubbish at saying out loud what's in my head ! But this is exactly how I feel !