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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It will never happen Pt 59. Though some lessons are being learned

16 replies

Needmoresleep · 01/04/2022 15:49

A transwoman sex offender will apparently be sent to a male prison.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10675553/Transgender-father-two-47-awaiting-gender-reassignment-surgery-jailed-three-years.html

I don't know if they will be safe there, but at least vulnerable women in the women's prison should be safer. Time for separate provision?

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BenCooperisaGod · 01/04/2022 15:53

I was just about to post that. If i said what i thought, i would be banned. How have so many people lost control of their critical faculties? How can the screamingly obvious safeguarding risks be ignored. THE RISKS ARE NOT THEORETICAL THEY ARE HAPPENING NOW. TO CHILDREN. AND GENDER IDEOLOGY IS ENABLING THIS.

BootsAndRoots · 01/04/2022 15:57

I'm amazed at how many of these people discover that they're trans just before a court case.

tabbycatstripy · 01/04/2022 16:01

Imagine suggesting a suspended sentence because someone’s life must be very hard at the moment... when they abused kids. What about their life?

It’s good this person won’t be in a female prison.

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/04/2022 16:20

Good. The comments are also illuminating (although several at first thought the headline was an April Fool's joke by the Mail).

Whatsnewpussyhat · 01/04/2022 16:28

She has fragile mental health and given her sexuality, she has suffered abuse on a regular basis. It is for her a daily issue

1, trans isn't a sexuality.

2, I'm sick to fucking death of these disgusting men getting sympathy for their 'poor mental health' because trans. Just fuck off. Men will literally be excused for any behaviour no matter how abhorrent.
He got his dick out in front of little girls well before he claimed to have womany feelz.

3, It also makes me sick that those girls have to see the newspapers and courts respect the fucking pronouns of a paedophile, gaslighting the world that they were sexually assaulted by a woman.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 01/04/2022 16:41

Imagine suggesting a suspended sentence because someone’s life must be very hard at the moment

They do it all the time. The man last year who followed and attacked a woman (in Manchester I think) and they were excusing his behaviour because he was stressed and that he had a family to support, it would riun HIS life, blah blah.

The man that chased his wife to the door and strangled her to death at the start of lockdown. 'He was worried about money' (despite being mortgage free and have loads on the bank) and was 'a good man' who 'wouldn't hurt a fly'

Same old misogyny.

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/04/2022 16:46

She has fragile mental health and given her sexuality, she has suffered abuse on a regular basis. It is for her a daily issue

Given that his sexuality involves being a predatory paedophile who targets small girls, I think the abuse is entirely understandable.

marjayy · 01/04/2022 16:59

Amazing how many rapists and paedos become transwomen once they're faced with prison innit.

Clymene · 01/04/2022 17:02

Are they interested in the mental health of the children he has abused? Not really Angry

And just FYI for newer posters, MN do not require us to use preferred pronouns for men who have sexually assaulted women and children. So not obligation to refer to this sick fucker as she Smile.

Needmoresleep · 01/04/2022 17:05

@Clymene

Are they interested in the mental health of the children he has abused? Not really Angry

And just FYI for newer posters, MN do not require us to use preferred pronouns for men who have sexually assaulted women and children. So not obligation to refer to this sick fucker as she Smile.

I think the Mail and other MSM are more constrained. But were able to include ‘father of two’ to make things clearer for their readers.
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picklemewalnuts · 01/04/2022 17:45

He's excellent at make up and filters, fair do. Far better than me.
I'm a little concerned about the woman he was living with in 2008 (?) who retrospectively finds she was in a same sex relationship, according to this. She may be quite surprised to read herself being referred to as 'her girlfriend'.

WearyLady · 02/04/2022 10:40

Where in law does it say that people like this must be referred to by their preferred pronouns in court? This must be so distressing for the victims. What would happen if victims and their legal team refused to do this? In other words, how could this be challenged? Crowd funding now makes possible many things that previously weren't.

GAHgamel · 03/04/2022 03:07

@WearyLady

Where in law does it say that people like this must be referred to by their preferred pronouns in court? This must be so distressing for the victims. What would happen if victims and their legal team refused to do this? In other words, how could this be challenged? Crowd funding now makes possible many things that previously weren't.
Google "Equal Treatment Bench Book". It's the guidance that the judiciary are supposed to follow in order to treat people with different circumstances appropriately when they're appearing in court. There's some discussion of recent (but I'm not sure if they're the most recent) changes to it here: www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2022/01/03/the-new-interim-version-of-the-equal-treatment-bench-book/
PaterPower · 03/04/2022 10:45

Great that he’s not going straight to the female estate, but there’s unfortunately nothing stopping him asking for a transfer once he’s been processed.

Masdintle · 03/04/2022 11:00

I wish that the papers would make it clear that 'the surgery' is vastly unlikely to be genital surgery. More likely to be facial feminisation or breast implants.

Datun · 03/04/2022 11:01

@PaterPower

Great that he’s not going straight to the female estate, but there’s unfortunately nothing stopping him asking for a transfer once he’s been processed.
According to MOJ policy, if he had a gender recognition certificate he'd automatically go straight to the female estate.

And if transactivists had their way, like they are about to Scotland, getting a certificate is a matter of filling in a form off the Internet.

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