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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Men asked if pregnant before x-rays

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ResisterRex · 29/03/2022 06:20

In the Telegraph today:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/28/nhs-trusts-ask-men-pregnant-government-removes-word-female-guidelines/

Male cancer patients and those having X-Rays and MRI scans are being asked if they could be expecting after the Government removed the word “female” from the law governing the medical procedures and replaced it with “individuals”.
The Walton Centre NHS Foundation Trust, in Liverpool, now asks “ALL patients under the age of 60, regardless of how you may identify your gender”.

Identifying your own "gender" won't mean you're male or female. And replacing medically accurate language in this case, has the effect of erasing women. One man was reportedly upset:

"One woman whose husband has cancer says that the question before a scan had caused “unnecessary confusion and agitation” and was “unfair” as a combination of steroids and brain surgery had made him emotional.
She added: “This was very confusing for him in his post-surgical daze, his vulnerability and needs completely ignored.”"

It is not all trusts but this one doubled down:

"“We believe asking all people who are having their abdomen imaged/scanned in this way, regardless of gender, is the least intrusive way of ensuring it is safe to proceed.”"

Dept of Health not impressed, it seems!

"When asked about the change in language, a Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “Patient safety is paramount, especially when there is a risk that foetuses may be exposed to damaging radiation. Therefore, it’s important that all biological females of child-bearing age are screened for potential pregnancy to avoid this risk.”"

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TheTeaFairy · 02/04/2022 08:36

Apologies for not having read every post, so I may not be the first to point this out to Dr Max Pemberton about his otherwise excellent piece...

Sex is observed at birth, not assigned.

Doctors/midwives do not choose a sex for newborns; they say what they see.

HTH Smile

JustSpeculation · 02/04/2022 08:56

@Absurdle

It's like the men who hilariously and with complete originality, every time they're visiting someone in a maternity ward, say, "Not this time, or I don't think so" in response to, "Are you the father?

🤦‍♀️ I wonder if the Dad Joke Reflex might cause NHS staff enough annoyance to get this brilliant inclusive initiative shelved.

Nature invented the dad joke for a reason - in this case, to remind the NHS that "patient" is not simply another NHS role.
KittenKong · 02/04/2022 09:56

Well I’ve just had a Meetup invitation to join a mens hiking club. It’s just so tempting.

userlotsanumbers · 06/04/2022 10:16

An update on this from the society who make the guidelines. They have released a statement and have posted their pride in their guidelines on Facebook

www.facebook.com/117467811876/posts/10159764293061877/

userlotsanumbers · 06/04/2022 10:17

They do believe the media coverage was unfair, statement here

www.sor.org/news/society-defends-inclusive-pregnancy-guidance-after

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