What is a man?

[FreelanceFiona]

Just thought it was about time someone asked.

Anyone?

Ooh ooh I know, it's someone who sits with their knees apart and their hair is cut above the ears.

Also they don’t feel fluffy and feminine and they don’t like sequins.

@Nnique

(Penis person used as an equivalent to ‘uterus haver/person with a cervix/bleeder/menstruator and other such horrendously dehumanising language. Goose and gander and all that.)

Prostate-owners, testicle-havers, potential, present and past ejaculators, inseminating parents (to match birthing parents) and so on. Penis people.

This would be inclusive language of the same sort women face all the time.

Yes. If it’s to be applied to us with impunity then I’ll be applying it to males too.

@SerendipityJane

I'm a man. And so is my wife.

... as is my hat!

Is it a person who gets cat-called when he walks past a group of women?

There's a quick test for this.

Say "no" .

If you get listened to, you're a man.

@Nnique

Is it penis people with a hard penis? Penis people with a flaccid penis? Penis people with penis in hand? Penis people with penis thrust into women’s faces (or bodies) on hospital wards or in prisons, or ‘just’ penis people waving an erect plastic penis around in a library? Is it penis people shoving their way into women’s sports/women’s political schemes/corporate schemes/educational schemes? Is it penis people with a penis writing period pants ejaculation reviews on M&S? Is it penis people demanding that women who are rape and domestic violence victims ‘reframe their trauma’ or else they’re nasty ‘bigots’?

So confusing. What is a man?

But what about de-penised people?

De-penised people are still penis people.

People who never had a penis are...oh wait...it’s just so complicated isn’t it. Are people who never had a penis actually people? Like actual human people? Do they really count?

A shifting constellation...?

A man is what they say they are. A woman is what a man says they are.

That’s a very good definition! @Artichokeleaves

@WhyIsEverythingSoHard

That’s a very good definition! *@Artichokeleaves*

Yes I agree. Cuts right to the crux of it.

@EIisheva

I am man.

After a morning of girl mode activities such as ironing and losing the dishwasher and admiring my new carpet, I am now going into full on man mode because I’m gong to buy a door and also build a cupboard today. These are definitely man jobs!

That's pretty careless of you, how do you lose a dishwasher?

Someone needs to ask Keir Starmer whether only men have a penis, to see whether he says that it's not right and shouldn't be said.

They eat Yorkie bars and McCoy's crisps.

I love a bag of McCoys from time to time, but not so fond of Yorkies. Perhaps I am non binary?

“DomesticatedZombie

Sorry. Flip.

This, instead:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yif5TIzaPYU“

Wonderful @DomesticatedZombie
Thank you.

You are Nancy and completely valid too! 🌈 🦄 🥳

But what about de-penised people?

They still have XY chromosomes so they're still male, have been male since conception and always will be.

Person with a penis. Hence we should have toilets for people with a penis and toilets for people without a penis. Keep it factual. Sports events for people with a penis and sports events for people without a penis.

Men are the sex that can't be surrogate carriers of other people's offspring.

@OccultGnuAsWell

Men are the sex that can't be surrogate carriers of other people's offspring.

Yup. We still need some sort of a hidden definition for the sex which is supposed to do surrogacy and sex work and act in porn but which no longer is allowed to have a more general name. Probably vulva people will suffice.

Someone who likes blue and can’t find things in drawers obviously.

In reality it’s those pesky XY chromosomes which can’t be changed - regardless of whether you were born male but decide you’re feeling like a Marjorie that particular day.

Every single trans woman.