Emma Watson's dig at JKR

[IamSarah]

It appears she said at the BAFTAs 'I am here for all of the witches... bar one'

Disappointing but not unexpected.

twitter.com/emwatsonbestof/status/1503505167207084034?s=21

Intersex is considered an outdated term by many and I believe the preferred term is now Disorder of Sexual Development (DSD) (though I have seen variants thereof).

Those with a DSD are either male or female. They may have a condition affecting their chromosomes (XXY syndrome) or they may have an androgen condition, as two examples. But karyotype testing can determine their sex.

[quote autienotnaughty]@Waitwhat23

I mean all women. I don't feel I have the right to decide who's female and who's not. Except myself of course. [/quote]
As you are not God, not the Maker of All, Our Creator you don't actually have any input at all.

Nature does that for us, biology is a real thing.

Females are not male
Males are not female
No mishap in genetic code changes that

Does anyone here know everything there is to know about the human body? Should the scientists just pack it in at this point?

I think the term is intersex and covers people born with both male and female organs and people born whether neither male or female is identified

In the gentlest and most respectful way, I would advise you do a bit of reading around this to get a better idea of the facts.

Does anyone here know everything there is to know about the human body? Should the scientists just pack it in at this point?

You are making yourself look silly now. Everything that science tells us thus far shows that every cell of you body defines your biological sex. It's not about genitals or feelings. It's literally in your DNA. Believing you are the opposite sex can be no more change your sex than me believing I am a bird can help me if I decide to jump out of a window expecting to fly.

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

Does anyone here know everything there is to know about the human body? Should the scientists just pack it in at this point?

I don't think the scientists are remotely confused.

This is really worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Less than 2 minutes, but sums up the issue very neatly.

'I will state this categorically. You cannot change your sex.'

• Professor Sir Robert Winston, Professor of Science and Society, Imperial College London

Emeritus Professor of Fertility Studies, Imperial College London Chairman of the Genesis Research Trust

@autienotnaughty

What do you mean?

“ Trans men don't just decide they feel male on a whim or because they grew up with brothers or because school discussed gender identity and it's the same for trans women. It's biological part of who they are.”

This makes no sense - what biological part of them is trans? There is, as far as I’m aware, no biological way in which trans people are different. It’s a ‘feeling’, apparently.

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

Does anyone here know everything there is to know about the human body? Should the scientists just pack it in at this point?

Oh, my word!

There are some things that are. Measurably. Sex is one of them. We, scienctists, are getting better at identifying all sorts of genetic misadventures, including those that define sex. Those miscodings are myriad, wide ranging in their effect on the human body. But one thing they all do is cement the knowledge that there are two sexes. Two sexes with any number of genetic hiccups, none of which enable a human being to change sex.

If you think calling other women silly is what you should be doing with your life...

You literally said 'thus far'. So do you know everything there is to know about the function of the brain? Do you know everything there is to know about biology? Does anyone?

What exactly is 'silly' about being open to the idea that we don't know everything there is to know?

She isn't very talented poor Emma, seems like nasty cow too.

Oh good grief. Stop digging!

"All there is to know" when talking about biological sex is that each person born is one or the other (Male or Female).
There's not a "wait and see" once they're born.

I'm eager to hear from the omniscient women who have completed science on the thread then, for the precise reason why people report spending their lives feeling like they are in the wrong body?

I think the term is intersex and covers people born with both male and female organs and people born whether neither male or female is identified.

No, it is "person with a difference of sexual development", and that is not what it means. You'd think people would know this, given how keen they are to exploit these people as if having a DSD is at all relevant to being trans.

If any evidence (and by that I mean peer reviewed scientific evidence, not badly written blog posts which conflate DSD's as meaning that 'sex is a spectrum') comes to light in the future which proves that human beings (a dimorphic species) can change sex, I would be incredibly interested in reading it.

But despite the desperate attempts on Twitter and elsewhere to state that sex is not a fixed state, there is no evidence. At all.

[quote Gosports]@autienotnaughty

What do you mean?

“ Trans men don't just decide they feel male on a whim or because they grew up with brothers or because school discussed gender identity and it's the same for trans women. It's biological part of who they are.”

This makes no sense - what biological part of them is trans? There is, as far as I’m aware, no biological way in which trans people are different. It’s a ‘feeling’, apparently.[/quote]
I suggest you do some research into that.

As a society we are constantly changing and evolving and that's a good thing. Some of the ways our society behaved in the past and even behaves now are awful and the hope is that people learn and do better. Any group that claims to be something supportive and then rejects and attacks people who don't meet its ideology or don't look the right way or think the right way is never a good thing .

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

I'm eager to hear from the omniscient women who have completed science on the thread then, for the precise reason why people report spending their lives feeling like they are in the wrong body?

See. You do understand.

Science

Feelings

Together you get a condition called dysmorphia. A psychological issue that causes the sufferer to disconnect with their material reality. In this case their sex.

I suggest you do some research into that

You were asked a question about a statement you made. The onus of proof is on you (who made the statement) not the person asking the question.

Can you send me a picture of this psychological issue? I'd hate to call your conclusion pure conjecture, so I'm keen to see physical evidence.

Any group that claims to be something supportive and then rejects and attacks people who don't meet its ideology or don't look the right way or think the right way is never a good thing

Indeed. Only one "side" doing the attacking though. Funny that.

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

I'm eager to hear from the omniscient women who have completed science on the thread then, for the precise reason why people report spending their lives feeling like they are in the wrong body?

You can't feel like you were born in the wrong body unless you can understand that there is another kind of body and why you should be in that one.

The "sex isn't a thing" nonsense doesn't make sense if you want to acknowledge transgenderism.

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

Can you send me a picture of this psychological issue? I'd hate to call your conclusion pure conjecture, so I'm keen to see physical evidence.

A picture?

Huh? I could send you a picture of a very long standing, oft updated, clinical psychology tome. Would that help?

You could look it up for yourself then!

As a society we are constantly changing and evolving and that's a good thing.

Indeed. In the 1700s men wore long flowing wigs, big lace-trimmed collars, silk stockings and high heeled shoes, and they powdered their faces and put rouge on their cheeks.

These days, a man who did that would most likely be doing so to express some inner sense of being a woman.

Society has changed and evolved. Social norms have evolved. Science hasn't. The bodies beneath those clothes are still exactly the same. We just read different things from the external cues.

@Briannashoshanna

She thinks she’s terribly clever, doesn’t she?

Educated beyond her intelligence, deeply spiteful and certainly no feminist. I’m embarrassed for her.

JKR is one hundred times the woman Emma Watson will ever be.

Absolutely

Do you think they'll ever produce another volume of this psychological tome? Or does it already contain every single thing there is to know?

The burden of proof is on you here. You're claiming that you know exactly why this happens. It should be pretty short work to provide conclusive evidence as to why it happens. Surely?