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Lynne Featherstone on twitter - words fail me

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Imnobody4 · 13/03/2022 22:57

Just saw this twitter exchange between LF and Nimco Ali after Nimco thanks JKR.
I stand up for women Nimco - it’s just a kinder and more generous version than yourself. Perhaps more understanding and compassion might help you. Always willing to discuss. The objective is equality - which used to matter to you.

The woman is a disgrace, the smug arrogance of her.

Lynne Featherstone on twitter - words fail me
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SolasAnla · 14/03/2022 11:04

@PermanentTemporary

What's the aim of drawing attention to individuals? If Lynn Featherstone gets a load of abuse for this it's hardly going to change her mind.

There are things going on in the Lib Dem party that might improve things, clearly Lynne Featherstone will fight against that but getting involved in a twitter spat won't help.

What's the aim of drawing attention to individuals? If JKR gets a load of abuse for this it's hardly going to change her mind.

Yet Lynne Featherstone decided to start a twitter spat and hand out the politely wraped abuse.

Why is it that Lynne Featherstone gets a free pass to direct abuse at JKR and attempt to smear someone who tweets in agreement?

Do double standards apply for some reason?

PearPickingPorky · 14/03/2022 11:08

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I see a parallel between this exchange between Nimko Ali and Lynne Featherstone and the one between Kemi Badenoch and Caroline Noakes the other week.

I found it deeply distasteful that Featherstone mentioned FGM as if Nimco should be grateful to her for supporting her.

It was like when Jolyon Maugham threatened Janice Turner that he'd no longer be a feminist or support the Centre for Women’s Justice if she didn't stop voicing her inconvenient opinions that women are human too.
DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 11:12

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Wait, they took on Aimee Challenor after Challenor Snr was convicted?!

They did, yes. After the Greens safeguarding scandal around AC and DC was revealed. They thought, let's welcome Aimee into the bosom of our party.

Confused

I presume Aimee was dropped once Aimee's new husband's proclivities became public?

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 11:15

@PermanentTemporary

What's the aim of drawing attention to individuals? If Lynn Featherstone gets a load of abuse for this it's hardly going to change her mind.

There are things going on in the Lib Dem party that might improve things, clearly Lynne Featherstone will fight against that but getting involved in a twitter spat won't help.

Of course nobody should get any abuse. And I agree Twitter spats are pointless.

I don't think Featherstone is going to be changing her mind, nor helping feminists, though. She's repeatedly made terrible decisions.

This is someone who appears to be actively attacking women for ... supporting other women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/03/2022 11:38

I presume Aimee was dropped once Aimee's new husband's proclivities became public?

Yes I think so.

https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/exclusive-transgender-activist-aimee-challenor-no-longer-in-coventry-lib-dem-post-amid-investigation-into-safeguarding-complaints/

OvaHere · 14/03/2022 11:47

@ATeamAmy

LF used to be my MP. DH and I had an exchange with her after, for the one and time, we voted for her/LibDem, and they promptly jumped into bed with the Tories. She was pretty nasty when we expressed our dismay about that.

She's very typical of the type who are deeply unpleasant, very privileged and want people to know their place, but dresses this up with liberal credentials. You can always tell, because in their mind, their deigning to support you (Lady Bountiful as a pp said), is the most valuable thing they have brought to the liberal agenda, and they put a lot more value on that than the actual people they purport to stand up for. And this is why, for the likes of LF, nothing more than fawning gratitude for the LFs of this world will do. It's an, "I lowered myself to stand up for you, now you owe me absolute loyalty and respect, and woe betide you have an opinion of your own" type attitude. You only hold this attitude if you didn't really care for the people you are now turning on, but were just using them to make yourself look good. And they react like LF has - pure anger from the bully pulpit and inserting themselves into a conversation nobody was having with them. All because they think every woman of colour owes them personally. They try to elevate themselves above the people who do actually suffer from prejudice, marginalisation etc, to "teach" them where they have gone wrong, to belittle their experiences and contributions, and to re-establish themselves at the top of the tree, where they always intended to stay, because that's the ultimate game. The LFs stay at the top, the NAs get her support, and yes, maybe a bit of relief, but they must know their place and show sufficient gratitude.

I see a parallel between this exchange between Nimko Ali and Lynne Featherstone and the one between Kemi Badenoch and Caroline Noakes the other week.

Yes exactly. Good post.
VestofAbsurdity · 14/03/2022 12:25

@ATeamAmy

LF used to be my MP. DH and I had an exchange with her after, for the one and time, we voted for her/LibDem, and they promptly jumped into bed with the Tories. She was pretty nasty when we expressed our dismay about that.

She's very typical of the type who are deeply unpleasant, very privileged and want people to know their place, but dresses this up with liberal credentials. You can always tell, because in their mind, their deigning to support you (Lady Bountiful as a pp said), is the most valuable thing they have brought to the liberal agenda, and they put a lot more value on that than the actual people they purport to stand up for. And this is why, for the likes of LF, nothing more than fawning gratitude for the LFs of this world will do. It's an, "I lowered myself to stand up for you, now you owe me absolute loyalty and respect, and woe betide you have an opinion of your own" type attitude. You only hold this attitude if you didn't really care for the people you are now turning on, but were just using them to make yourself look good. And they react like LF has - pure anger from the bully pulpit and inserting themselves into a conversation nobody was having with them. All because they think every woman of colour owes them personally. They try to elevate themselves above the people who do actually suffer from prejudice, marginalisation etc, to "teach" them where they have gone wrong, to belittle their experiences and contributions, and to re-establish themselves at the top of the tree, where they always intended to stay, because that's the ultimate game. The LFs stay at the top, the NAs get her support, and yes, maybe a bit of relief, but they must know their place and show sufficient gratitude.

I see a parallel between this exchange between Nimko Ali and Lynne Featherstone and the one between Kemi Badenoch and Caroline Noakes the other week.

Just highlighting this post as it is superb, 100% nails it.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 14/03/2022 12:58

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I see a parallel between this exchange between Nimko Ali and Lynne Featherstone and the one between Kemi Badenoch and Caroline Noakes the other week.

I found it deeply distasteful that Featherstone mentioned FGM as if Nimco should be grateful to her for supporting her.

Quote from twitter, in reply to that post.

As you mentioned kindness, I trust that you'll be horrified to learn that the quoted reads as a veiled threat that you'll withdraw your opposition to FGM if Nimco continues to support Joanne. I'm sure Nimco would value reassurance you meant no such thing.

twitter.com/Dora_Callisto/status/1503179360899153925?t=EHSRh1YRNVgfxiL7t5RdhA&s=19

Baroness Featherstone hasn't been back to twitter yet. When she does come back, I wonder if she will take pains to assure everyone that she did not mean to imply her support for Nimco's anti-FGM campaign was conditional!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 14/03/2022 13:20

Nimco has slept on it and made a thread in response.

twitter.com/NimkoAli/status/1503304650346446851?t=rtLfQoeXjJC16ZKEivEfBA&s=19

As a black woman who is fighting daily for the most over looked women and girls in the world, it’s scary to see what is happening. Biology matters. 73 million girls are at risk of #FGM because of their sex and if I can’t say that, I can’t do my job. 2/3

My exchange here last night with a woman who once stood with me but now calls me unkind for holding the same view she did when she was in office was a wake up call. I am kind, I care but will not throw women under the bus ever. ✌🏽 3/3

Good on her.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 14/03/2022 20:25

'I'm clear thinking and liberal and based in principles of equality.'

I'm imagining Lynne Featherstone standing in front of the mirror and repeating this 5 times as part of a morning ritual Grin

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 20:35

Applause for Nimco. The contrast between her clear, poised statements and Lynne Featherstone's emotionally manipulative bullshit is stark.

FOJN · 14/03/2022 20:43

Extremists on both sides are unforgivable

Lynne can fuck off with that bullshit. I've seen Nimco interviewed several times and found her very impressive. I would not describe her as a woman lacking in compassion.

ResisterRex · 14/03/2022 20:45

I am kind, I care but will not throw women under the bus ever.

Yes!!!!!! A fantastic response Star

OvaHere · 14/03/2022 20:48

@FOJN

Extremists on both sides are unforgivable

Lynne can fuck off with that bullshit. I've seen Nimco interviewed several times and found her very impressive. I would not describe her as a woman lacking in compassion.

I've noticed that those in favour of self ID and gender ideology who refer to 'extremists on both sides' (and there's quite a few public people who use this term) never explain who they think the extremists on their own side are. Who are the trans activists who Lynne thinks have gone too far and what is it that they have done that she disapproves of?
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 21/04/2022 01:18

As the public shaming from a Peer didn't work, Persons Unknown are emailing Nimco racist abuse for her support of sex-based rights.

How utterly unsurprising.

twitter.com/NimkoAli/status/1516307667895083009?t=dTBK4qtEDkp1YKTZQzqw6Q&s=19

Slothtoes · 21/04/2022 09:29

Nimco Ali owes Lynn Featherstone nothing and I’m so sorry she (Nimco) is being insulted like this. I can’t even go there with the smug idiocy of people telling an anti-FGM campaigner to ‘be kind’, to ignore female abuse and to repeat back the gender woo to favour male egos to gain forgiveness. Absolute outrageous brass neck.

Sadly this isn’t a view unique to Lynn Featherstone but how embarrassing that someone in her position would actually hold it and double down on it.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/04/2022 12:56

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 21/04/2022 01:18

As the public shaming from a Peer didn't work, Persons Unknown are emailing Nimco racist abuse for her support of sex-based rights.

How utterly unsurprising.

twitter.com/NimkoAli/status/1516307667895083009?t=dTBK4qtEDkp1YKTZQzqw6Q&s=19

I believe that the racist abuse is a regular feature rather than a bug?

Terfydactyl · 21/04/2022 15:24

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 11:12

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Wait, they took on Aimee Challenor after Challenor Snr was convicted?!

They did, yes. After the Greens safeguarding scandal around AC and DC was revealed. They thought, let's welcome Aimee into the bosom of our party.

Confused

I presume Aimee was dropped once Aimee's new husband's proclivities became public?

Yes but I think it still took longer than it should have.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 21/04/2022 15:27

I never understood why they took AC on with such enthusiasm.

AC was obviously a walking liability, and so it proved.

DomesticatedZombie · 21/04/2022 15:40

That's appalling regards the abuse Nimco Ali has received.

As an aside, though, I have now stumbled on the Five Foundation, which looks really interesting, so thank you for drawing my attention to Nimco's Twitter feed.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 21/04/2022 15:41

Well, that's something good at least!

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