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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nicola Sturgeon is no feminist

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Letsnotdothisplease · 27/02/2022 15:03

She gives not one shiny sh1t about women.

Has everyone realised this now?

She thinks women should need permission from two doctors to procure an abortion but that any bloke can be a woman on his say so just by signing a piece of paper in lawyer’s office.

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ScreamingMeMe · 28/02/2022 10:12

Also this is funny.

KittenKong · 28/02/2022 23:52

@Cismyfatarse

If she is a "feminist to her fingertips" then I am bewildered at how she can call our concerns "not valid" without listening to any of our views at all. She clearly hates women.,
Did she ever actually explain what she thought that meant?
GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 01/03/2022 22:51

"Is it that in Sturgeon, they no longer see a champion for women’s rights but a sort of turncoat, who seems intent on stripping them of their rights, privacy and dignity?"

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/week-nicola-sturgeon-abandoned-women/

#womenwontwheesht in the telegraph!

I really felt the "female first Scottish second" comment.

flyingbuttress43 · 02/03/2022 11:57

Excoriating full page DT feature on Sturgeon, Gibbons. Thanks for linking.

Dougalskeeper · 02/03/2022 12:40

As an independence supporting Scot I believe Sturgeon is pure evil.

KittenKong · 02/03/2022 12:47

That would suggest some self-directed agenda. She is being played, pure and simple, and has turned Scotland in to a child and woman hating joke.

Letsnotdothisplease · 05/03/2022 16:28

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4497336-Heartbreaking-column-in-todays-Scotsman

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JustAnotherCrack · 05/03/2022 16:53

Wasn’t there strong rumours she was gay herself. I’ve wondered if she’s trying to keep in with the ‘movement’ to ease her eventual coming out.

KimikosNightmare · 05/03/2022 16:56

@JustAnotherCrack

Wasn’t there strong rumours she was gay herself. I’ve wondered if she’s trying to keep in with the ‘movement’ to ease her eventual coming out.
There are loads of rumours going about but why on earth do you think she needs support for coming out?

Kezia Dugdale, Ruth Davidson and even odious wee Patrick are/ were openly gay party leaders. Nobody would care.

KimikosNightmare · 05/03/2022 16:58

@Dougalskeeper

As an independence supporting Scot I believe Sturgeon is pure evil.
Well maybe be careful what you wish for. Separatism is just , if not more, a deranged idea. You (general you) voted them in.
ATeamAmy · 05/03/2022 17:00

[quote Letsnotdothisplease]www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4497336-Heartbreaking-column-in-todays-Scotsman[/quote]
This is utterly heartbreaking. Shame on Sturgeon and the SNP shills for Stonewall.

Flowers Susan Dalgety

JustAnotherCrack · 05/03/2022 17:04

I don’t think that, but she might. Perhaps because she is married and closeted. Some people get very taken in by the ‘community’ especially when they are newly out, like it’s a protective shield and are oblivious to the actual real damage it’s really doing to lesbians, like myself.

That’s if the rumours are even true, she may be completely heterosexual.

FoxyFoxyLoxy · 05/03/2022 17:10

What you have to understand about Ms Sturgeon is that she would literally throw anyone under the bus for her goal of independence. That is her ONLY concern. Being different from Boris. Showing that Scottish people are fundamentally different from English people (sorry Welsh and N Irish, you don't get a look in). Creating division and funding endless campaigns to convince us that if we're not "Yes yet" then we shall be soon.

She hasn't got an outright majority in the Scottish parliament so has cosied up to the Greens and their odious leader, Mr Harvie. He is full-on TWAW and in order to secure the support of Greens in Scottish parliament, Sturgeon will agree to whatever he suggests. Because ALL that matters to her is yet another independence referendum.

It's utterly toxic. Yes she hates women. She's also not keen on school children and university students as she has kept them out of school/uni and masked up far far longer than children in other parts of the UK in pursuit of her "look at me, I'm so different, so caring, not like those awful Tories at Westmonster" shite.

howonearthdidwegethere · 05/03/2022 17:23

It's quite something to watch lefties elsewhere in the UK fawn all over her. Sure, presentationally, she is streets ahead of Boris. But she has delivered nothing as First Minister in terms of policy outcomes, bar giving new parents a cardboard box with babygros and nappies (which does nothing to improve infant mortality rates which was the original promise). She's flailing around to secure some of legacy before she inevitably shuffles off after failing to secure a second independence referendum. All that matters to her is how many likes and RTs she gets for her selfies on Twitter.

And yes, she hates women.

FoxyFoxyLoxy · 05/03/2022 17:25

But @howonearthdidwegethere - ambulances and police cars now have Gaelic lettering on them! Hmm

KimikosNightmare · 05/03/2022 17:41

@FoxyFoxyLoxy

But *@howonearthdidwegethere* - ambulances and police cars now have Gaelic lettering on them! Hmm
As do all stations. My favourites are the made up ones like Coatbridge Sunnyside which literally translates Coat, bridge, sunny and side.
VenezuelaChant · 05/03/2022 18:04

What you have to understand about Ms Sturgeon is that she would literally throw anyone under the bus for her goal of independence.

Then you haven't been paying attention. She is all talk. Many indy supporters are the first to say NS doesn't care remotely about independence. It's all bluster to sound good for the indy voters but even the most stringent indy supporters are getting weary of the can-kicking.

It's all about job security and image and the burning desire to make Scotland appear "progressive". Acting on independence seems very far from her mind these days.

Fieldofgreycorn · 05/03/2022 18:16

Men have been slowly but surely vilanised over the years

If they have it’s mostly by themselves and their actions. As they do the vast majority of the abuse, violence and murdering.

KimikosNightmare · 05/03/2022 18:57

What you have to understand about Ms Sturgeon is that she would literally throw anyone under the bus for her goal of independence. That is her ONLY concern. Being different from Boris. Showing that Scottish people are fundamentally different from English people

It's a determination to create false distinctions which is bordering on racism.

Whereareyourshoes · 06/03/2022 08:32

Nicola Sturgeon is determined to leave a legacy that increases the risk of harm to women and children. Feminist? Not in the slightest. Ample opportunity to have honest conversations about complex situations to find a way through which protects all groups but instead dismissing all concerns as not valid.

It says a great deal about the character of Sturgeon and the SNP, Harvie and Slater and the Greens and Cole-Hamilton and the Lib Dems that they have no issues with people changing historic records with feelings rather than facts. They may be comfortable with deceit and dishonesty but these are values I do not share. Stop lying to our kids that they can actually change their sex. It is beyond cruel.

Rainbowshit · 06/03/2022 09:44

Sturgeon will "take no lessons " from anyone else. It's just the way the SNP do things. They have a single minded goal and no amount of pointing out issues will divert them from it. In fact any opposition is seen as evil.

People asking reasonable questions about independence. "Traitor" "quilling" "yoon" "toarie ", "why do you hate Scotland"

People pointing out issues with named person legislation: "why do you hate children"

People pointing out issues with self id: "bigot", "transphobic", "why do you hate gay people"

They don't even allow debate or questions within their own party. They are absolutely awful and are destroying Scotland.

Letsnotdothisplease · 13/04/2022 17:25

Just checking in. Yup, Nicola still a shill for da menz and no feminist, however long her fingertips.

Has done eff all to ensure safe zones around abortion clinics so women are not harassed by anti choice activists.

A feminist to her fingertips would have fixed this.

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