Texas to prosecute trans medical procedures on children as child abuse

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twitter.com/JazzShaw/status/1496853923596017673?t=yMNjFBydPEp-oFBQUrUU3w&s=19

Good

That is exactly what it is.

It is child abuse, of the highest order.

This is good news. There's a governor election November. I think that outcome could be indicative of where the US will turn now with regards to trans issues. If he's re-elected it may embolden others to step up. I saw this policy and referred to as a "trans genocide" 🙄 on Twitter.

Good.

@LondonWolf

This is good news. There's a governor election November. I think that outcome could be indicative of where the US will turn now with regards to trans issues. If he's re-elected it may embolden others to step up. I saw this policy and referred to as a "trans genocide" 🙄 on Twitter.

Good stuff.

I agree, the prominence this plays in the election, and the outcome, could be very important.

Good any mutilation of children whether surgically or chemically is abhorrent

Twitter on full melt down. Blue ticks raising funds to help trans kids 'escape to safety'.

I honestly thought some kind of cull had been announced. But all they've done is ban medical sex change procedures on minors.

America is..... mental.

Will this be back dated ? So anyone who has already placed their child on a medical pathway that was legal at the time, will they be able to continue.

Its great this is being seen fir what it is. Child abuse. I do have a few concerns that although I don't feel the children and teens should ever have been treated this way, I do hope that repairs/ revisions needed to allow them to function as normally as possible should be permitted. It would make a horrific situation worse if they were left with catheters / badly healed wounds etc

Good, it is child abuse

Good. Children are not capable of giving informed consent to medical or surgical 'sex change'.

Child abuse.
You'd think that would make a few people sit up and worry. No one wants to be accused of child abuse.

They're not looking to ban it they're looking to prosecute.

At last.

This is encouraging. For it to be celebrated be over Tik Tok by a so called doctor (first do no harm?) is beyond disgusting.

Is this just about medical transition or social transition as well? Everyone on Twitter is saying that it's both, but on the document itself it only refers to medical procedures which I completely agree with.

The language being used around this on Twitter is ridiculous and very frightening if you are actually a gender questioning kid. All this talk of 'genocide....getting to safety....reign of terror', its not actually helpful in the slightest.

Surely as long you are aren't injecting your kid with Lupron to stop their perfectly healthy body from developing, or allowing them to cut off healthy body parts, then you should be ok?

Yes the " inner circle " of drs profiting from this and as a result there's no incentive to get it right, is a huge problem.

I think America owes it to these poor kids to fix all the botched surgeries as much as possible for those unfortunate enough to have already been operated on likely badly

Not sure about America but here children do not get gender reassignment surgery. They are referred to a clinic like the Tavistock and they have counselling. They are expected to live as a girl/boy for at least 2 years they are permitted to be given hormones but that is it. Surgery is not permitted until they are adults.

The only time surgery is permitted is in incredibly rare situations when the baby is identified as intersex, and has both X and Y chromosomes and sometimes their genitals cannot be confirmed as being either fully make or fully female. If this was your child would you want some bible bashing politically motivated group telling you your child cannot have surgery?

I think it's very clear that this thread is about Texas, and also that DSDs are irrelevant to this discussion.

I thought that surgery on children with DSD's was also discouraged now? To allow the child to have a choice in their bodies presentation once they are adults?

Here's some background:

www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/texas-governor-orders-probe-of-abusive-procedures-for-transgender-children-00011057

a Feb. 18 legal opinion authored by Republican state Attorney General Ken Paxton, which concluded transition-related medical procedures and treatments can legally constitute child abuse under several provisions of state law

Which led to:

Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott this week ordered the state’s youth protection agency to investigate the use of gender-transition procedures on children, in a directive that included calls to launch inquiries into parents and medical providers who allegedly violate the law

Fully agree. Until a person is 18 and above no surgery or medication for this shit should he offered. It’s full on child abuse.

@Eightiesfan

Not sure about America but here children do not get gender reassignment surgery. They are referred to a clinic like the Tavistock and they have counselling. They are expected to live as a girl/boy for at least 2 years they are permitted to be given hormones but that is it. Surgery is not permitted until they are adults.

The only time surgery is permitted is in incredibly rare situations when the baby is identified as intersex, and has both X and Y chromosomes and sometimes their genitals cannot be confirmed as being either fully make or fully female. If this was your child would you want some bible bashing politically motivated group telling you your child cannot have surgery?

Please don't drag people with DSDs into an argument they are not relevant to and have repeatedly asked to be left out of.

It is hugely disrespectful.

@Eightiesfan

Not sure about America but here children do not get gender reassignment surgery. They are referred to a clinic like the Tavistock and they have counselling. They are expected to live as a girl/boy for at least 2 years they are permitted to be given hormones but that is it. Surgery is not permitted until they are adults.

The only time surgery is permitted is in incredibly rare situations when the baby is identified as intersex, and has both X and Y chromosomes and sometimes their genitals cannot be confirmed as being either fully make or fully female. If this was your child would you want some bible bashing politically motivated group telling you your child cannot have surgery?

Half of all babies born in the Uk have x and Y chromosomes.

And people with DSD have repeatedly asked for their medical conditions not to be weaponised by TRA, it’s very hurtful and offensive to them.

And your comment about “ Bible bashing “ is extremely racist.

The problem is it’s Texas. Context is relevant here. I support not being allowed to medicate children in ways that permanently affect them , which includes hormones and puberty blockers, I wonder if it’s a) overly prescriptive (if children are regularly on a year or two of puberty blockers there might be data showing that doesn’t ha them,and it’s just extended periods and bypassing puberty that’s the concern?) and b) it might be a green light for serious societal discrimination against trans people generally. So while I think it would be good news in the uk, which would surely allow for my a) in implementing such a law, it will protect some children in Texas from lifelong damage which is great but also I think legitimise more overt transphobia as I suspect that’s a strong reason for it but just protecting children, and that’s not great. I do want to see kids protected and prevented from making these major decisions until they are adults, I don’t want to see kids and young adults being bullied, beaten up or worse for saying they are trans.

Not sure about America

Did you miss the title of the thread?

@MORVEN

Please explain how my use of the term ‘bible basher’ is racist, I’m fascinated to hear your explanation,