Green Party proposed conference motion WDI

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I saw this on Green Feminists on Facebook and, well, blimey! On top of Shahrar Ali and Emma Bateman's recent (and long term) treatment it seems a big purge is being touted.

"Sign the Women's Declaration International declaration on sex-based rights for women and you may run the risk of being thrown out of the Green Party.

Green Feminists who are also members of the Green Party of England and Wales need to be aware of the late motion being brought by Ani Stafford-Townsend co-chair of the Green Party Women committee which is given below:

Late Motion: Developing an intersectional approach to diversity in the Green Party

Synopsis:

GPEW accepts the damning results of the 25th January 2022 Council of Europe report “Combating rising hate against LGBTI people in Europe”. GPEW accepts that it has been subject to hard-line anti-trans activism for some time; issues cannot be tackled without understanding; and oppression of marginalised groups intersect.

Motion:

Insert into Record of Policy Statements:

RR539:

The Green Party recognises the need for civil, open dialogue between party members on the topic of Trans Rights, in order to enable the party to make the most informed policy decisions possible.

The Green Party accepts that the “Gender Critical” movements in most UK political parties have been infiltrated by hard-line extremists, who advocate for the wholesale removal of virtually all trans rights as currently enshrined in the Equality Act 2010, and routinely share platforms with those who advocate for extremist positions such as the mass sterilization of trans people. These extremists have also been linked with attacks on women’s abortion rights, misinformation designed to provoke hatred towards trans people, and have benefitted from funding from the far-right.

The Green Party condemns hard-line anti-trans activists, including signatories of the “Women’s Declaration International”, which calls for the following:

A total ban on all trans women from entering any and all women’s spaces, including toilets, changing rooms, etc.

A ban on all internationally recommended trans healthcare of any kind on under 18s.

A ban on organisations that recognise Gender Identity (including policy that merely accepts the use of preferred pronouns) from having any involvement in children’s healthcare.

Legally protect the right to misgender trans women.

Ban trans women from being legally recognised as mothers, and trans men form being legally recognised as fathers.

Ban scientific research into fertility treatment for trans women.

Ban all trans women from misogyny combating measures, such as all women shortlists, scholarships, etc.

Ban all trans women and girls from women’s sports at all levels of competition, irrespective of the wishes of the organising sporting bodies.

Ban all trans women from women’s prisons.

Require all collected statistics to refer to trans women as male, and trans men as female.

Legally protect parents who seek to deny healthcare or therapy to transgender children.

The Green Party recognises that while many moderate gender critical party members may wish to discuss or debate some of the WDI demands, that collectively they represent a hard-line extremist view, involving what would be some of the most extreme anti-trans legislation in any country in Europe. The Green Party expresses regret that the Council of Europe report deems the UK as being on par with Russia, Poland and Hungary when it comes to LGBTI rights, and wishes to oppose any further worsening of our position.

Conference instructs :

Conference instructs GPRC to suspend signatories of the WHRC/Women’s Declaration International.

Conference instructs GPEx to provide intersectional equalities & diversity training to elected members, internally & externally, and to local party officers, in order to gain a comprehensive understanding of how the challenges to the rights of all marginalised groups intersect.

Insert into the Code of Conduct:

10.11:

Members should under no circumstances sign or have signed public declarations calling for the explicit removal of LGBTQIA+ rights, as enshrined in the Equality Act 2010 (under “gender Identity” and “sexual orientation”), in particular the WHRC declaration/Women’s Declaration International. Those members who do or have done so should be suspended from the party permanently."

This can be stopped. Spring conference online is going to be dramatic.

"Spring Conference is 4 - 6 March, entirely online and there are important motions to support - Disaffiliation from Stonewall; Ensuring Sex & Gender are Not Conflated. And to oppose - Queerphobia. Cost is £45; £25 low-waged; £10 unwaged. So do attend if you can! And would be great to see you all at Green Party Women events and EGM."

More details:

mailchi.mp/398918b1dbec/what-next-after-election-success

They are trying to drive Gender Critical people out of th

I've just signed that declaration, thanks for the link. I'm a Green Party member, joined to vote for Shahrar Ali it's not a real fit for me but I felt politically homeless. Is it worth staying as a member?

@Ereshkigalangcleg

They just sound like a bunch of narcissistic, angry children, not a responsible political party. Purge all the GC people then, and your party will turn into Lord of the Flies.

Hmm I was just reflecting on when I'm only allowed to refer to my 3yr old as a chick.

@anothersmahedmug

And I though one of our common concerns was the sterilisation of young transgender girls

How dare they pretend we support sterilisation

I think this is around self ID. I don't know for sure but It could be that they want men to be able to say they're women without surgery.

Which is fine but keep the fuck out of women's spaces and don't gaslight everyone. And wot JKR said.

Someone should bring this to the attention of Labour's heads of policy as a graphic example of where Labour will end up in the not too distant future if they don't rein in/expel their own TRA Militant Tendency.

@McDuffy

I've just signed that declaration, thanks for the link. I'm a Green Party member, joined to vote for Shahrar Ali it's not a real fit for me but I felt politically homeless. Is it worth staying as a member?

That's the spirit

That transmen appear absolutely nowhere in that diatribe speaks volumes.

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Hang on - "those who advocate for extremist positions such as the mass sterilization of trans people" - who is doing the sterilizing?

That's what I thought Spartacus. Has anyone here ever seen anyone advocating for the forced sterilization of trans people? I thought this was what we were objecting to with kids being medicalised?

I signed it yonks ago. Pre green membership.

This is along the lines of "check your thinking" or a "if your name's on the list you're not coming in" bouncer mentality.

Please feel free to point out the erroneous smears against Emma re sterilisation on twitter. A number of individuals proclaimed it recently.

My traditional cut and paste of what I wrote before about womb "transplants":

I'll write what I always write when this comes up. This business of uterine "transplants" into men appears to be about science but it is not. It's about getting the idea out there that men can give birth too, but not just yet, there are a few technical details to be sorted out first. So while we're waiting for the inevitable, let's get on with the social sciences side of things and accept that since men can give birth too (not yet, but soon, soon, it's bound to happen), then there are no real differences between men and women in terms of things that are material and significant, they're just bodies with an interchangable set of parts. The actual differences are surface ones like the chosen forms of appearance.

It is about trying to change how people think by assuming a medical horror is a run-of-the-mill thing just round the corner. It's Overton Window stuff, not science.

I think they all live in a fantasy world now. People read crap on tumbler and think it's scientific fact.

@drum123

On the subject of a baby being born from an implanted uterus, how would it be reported i? 'A man has given birth' - nope, that's transphobic as TWAW. 'A transwoman has given birth' - transphobic again for the same reason. 'A woman has given birth' - well, that's no good, no one would pay any attention to that. 'A person who is a man, but says he is a woman, has given birth' - that's the closest to the truth and perfectly covers the batshit craziness of it all. I suppose it would depend on how much attention the new uterus haver craved - and we all know how much that would be!

Presumably it would have to be buy c-section because there's no way a baby would get through a male's hips.

@WarriorN

I think they all live in a fantasy world now. People read crap on tumbler and think it's scientific fact.

Too much time gaming, they think a uterus is plug and play.

I have just been alerted to this thread. It is quite incredible that the Green Party has got to this point. For people who are supposed to care about the environment they seem quite prepared to see the party burn.

And so much for the code of conduct clause 8:
“Freedom of expression - Members’ right to freedom of thought, conscience and belief should be respected.”

There are 50,000 party members and most of them are blissfully unaware that the party line is males are female.

BTW. Ani Stafford Townsend is not a woman. They are a female non binary person. It is very important to maintain civil, open dialogue during an authoritarian purge.

What world do we live in when not wanting men in women's prisons, sports and on all women shortlists is seen as extremist? It's scary.

What happens at an online conference, how does the voting happen? Do they record all the names or is it just anonymously counted?

I've been around here for long enough to remember when it was all fields and trees.

And I can remember when the Green Party was all about fields and trees.

What the fuck is going on? How has the untruth that it is possible for a sexually dimorphic species can change sex become an environmental issue?

FFS. I voted green. I'd quite like the planet to not die. I'm not convinced that plastics are ok as long as they are in breast implants and lip fillers. Fucking sell outs.

@chillied

What happens at an online conference, how does the voting happen? Do they record all the names or is it just anonymously counted?

Hi, the count is anonymous. if you are still a member and can bear to attend conference , please do, because the party is sunk if this kind of thing is voted in. And if you are a member who is considering leaving, please write to your local party representative and tell them exactly what you think of what is going on.

I wonder what the Greens policy on animal exploitation and cruelty is?

I mean if research is being carried out into implanting a uterus into a male human body. Surely the researchers are going to want develop and practice on other primates first?

Is there a research lab somewhere attempting to implant wombs into male chimpanzees? And forcing them to carry a pregnancy?

How would Green voters feel about that do you think?

What does Caroline Lucas make of it all I wonder?

@Jarnsaxa

I wonder what the Greens policy on animal exploitation and cruelty is?

I mean if research is being carried out into implanting a uterus into a male human body. Surely the researchers are going to want develop and practice on other primates first?

Is there a research lab somewhere attempting to implant wombs into male chimpanzees? And forcing them to carry a pregnancy?

How would Green voters feel about that do you think?

Great point. I suspect thinking of it this way will be more emotive to some than considering the potential impacts on the human child involved. All the medication and its side effects, plus the unknowns of disrupting the natural process. Light exposure in utero is being found to have an impact on brain development for example. There's just so much we don't fully understand. It seems a form of preemptive abuse to even consider risking so much with another's life to fulfil a want. Same goes for men who want to breastfeed. Is the milk composition going to be comparable even to formula? How many resources will be dedicated to this when we all know how little support there is for women to establish breastfeeding?

In so many arenas we have bog standard, unspecial, non-exceptional, frankly boring women* doing what women do everyday, pushed aside for these trampling charismatic black holes of attention. And if we try to assert our rights in the face of these wants there is a hate campaign to silence us.

*the TRAs apparent viewpoint, not my own.

BTW. Ani Stafford Townsend is not a woman. They are a female non binary person. It is very important to maintain civil, open dialogue during an authoritarian purge.

If they is not a woman, then why is they co-chair of 'Green Party Women'?

Precisely.

So is it the green female group? In which case why are there men in there?

There's an active lgbtqi group they could happily be very active in.

It's called 'Green Party Women'. If someone has identified out of womanhood then seems a bit odd they'd want to be part of a woman's group.