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Feminism: Sex & gender discussions

UK Physios

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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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Greycatwhitepaws · 01/02/2023 20:37

I remember when gay and lesbian colleagues had to keep their sexuality hidden and it's wonderful that this is no longer necessary. However, J seems to be of the view that he is special with his misogynistic and leather views. Would it be appropriate to tell patients if you were into swinging, dogging or domination? All legal I believe but would it be highly unprofessional and weird. And how would J know, if he met me whether I was into something niche or nor, would he need to know and would I want him to think about me in a Frank Bough dungeon, no I would not 😆😆😂

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Greycatwhitepaws · 01/02/2023 20:42

I'm being served high laced leather boot adverts. At least its not handcuffs and dungeons 😂😂😂

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/02/2023 08:38

I would know how to get a patient with insecure housing sorted, why is this BASIC SKILL got anything to do with sexuality?

However, JH doesn't explain HOW he solved the patient's crisis. Makes me wonder whether JH took this patient to his own home.

"For example, a former patient had lots of housing problems. He had also been sexually assaulted by his partner. But I had the information as a queer person about how to get him housed: that wasn’t me as a physio doing that, that was me as a fellow gay man.

The only humane response was to be a gay man in that situation, not to be a physio in that situation. Literally, by that evening, he had a bed. That is because I’m queer and active in the community."

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Calyx72 · 02/02/2023 09:39

Greycatwhitepaws · 01/02/2023 20:42

I'm being served high laced leather boot adverts. At least its not handcuffs and dungeons 😂😂😂

Oh noooo

But that's funny 😄

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Calyx72 · 02/02/2023 09:40

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/02/2023 08:38

I would know how to get a patient with insecure housing sorted, why is this BASIC SKILL got anything to do with sexuality?

However, JH doesn't explain HOW he solved the patient's crisis. Makes me wonder whether JH took this patient to his own home.

"For example, a former patient had lots of housing problems. He had also been sexually assaulted by his partner. But I had the information as a queer person about how to get him housed: that wasn’t me as a physio doing that, that was me as a fellow gay man.

The only humane response was to be a gay man in that situation, not to be a physio in that situation. Literally, by that evening, he had a bed. That is because I’m queer and active in the community."

I wondered that as well but surely not.

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RadFizz · 02/02/2023 10:40

I think he means he knows of gay support networks and got the patient in touch with those. There are charities that support LGBT homeless and offer hostels for the night etc

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HilarysMantelpiece · 02/02/2023 13:40

"For example, a former patient had lots of housing problems. He had also been sexually assaulted by his partner. But I had the information as a queer person about how to get him housed: that wasn’t me as a physio doing that, that was me as a fellow gay man.

The only humane response was to be a gay man in that situation, not to be a physio in that situation. Literally, by that evening, he had a bed. That is because I’m queer and active in the community."

How ridiculous.

Either this was a person acting in their own personal capacity to respond with empathy and understanding to a fellow human being in crisis (more power to JH's elbow)..........
OR, as a professional, he had no business intervening without taking a detailed physical and mental health history.

If he is responding as a gay man active in his community, why on earth is that brought into work?
Does he want a round of applause at work, for doing what any decent person would have done?

Lots of things I have done in my personal life might get a clap on the back from my fellow professionals...but I am never going to be writing about it in my professional magazine, nor talking about it at work.

Seriously, if I was supervising this young man, I would be suggesting that there was some work to be done on his boundaries and professional attitudes.

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RadFizz · 02/02/2023 17:55

I opened the email bulletin today and found Jack's smug face staring back at me 🙄

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RadFizz · 09/02/2023 19:00

Did anyone contribute towards that consultation about adopting a definition of transphobia?

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Calyx72 · 09/02/2023 21:01

I emailed from my non-work account, anonymously, saying I hope that being a non-believer in gender, and believing that sex matters, would not mean that I would be accused of transphobia.
I said in the email that I am a registered physiotherapist in Scotland and that my beliefs are worthy of respect.
I also said that despite those beliefs, if in my professional capacity I found myself dealing with a trans colleague or patient then of course I would treat them with the respect and dignity that everyone else is treated with.

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2Rebecca · 09/02/2023 21:21

If it had been a straight woman patient who had been assaulted by her male partner would he have found her somewhere to stay? He sounds very discriminatory if not.

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RadFizz · 09/02/2023 21:23

Calyx72 · 09/02/2023 21:01

I emailed from my non-work account, anonymously, saying I hope that being a non-believer in gender, and believing that sex matters, would not mean that I would be accused of transphobia.
I said in the email that I am a registered physiotherapist in Scotland and that my beliefs are worthy of respect.
I also said that despite those beliefs, if in my professional capacity I found myself dealing with a trans colleague or patient then of course I would treat them with the respect and dignity that everyone else is treated with.

👏🏻 👏🏻

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OldJeans · 10/02/2023 18:28

Did not respond to Twitter , however did get a CSP feedback link last week. Which had rating and some feedback free text boxes. Filled in ranted about the need to ensure free speach is protected for members, especially those who believe in binary sex. Added in something about what was posted on Twitter and about it would be ridiculous for the CSP to define ‘ transphobia’ when there is not even and national definition of trans and that the CSP is a professional body and not political body etc etc.

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Calyx72 · 10/02/2023 22:30

OldJeans · 10/02/2023 18:28

Did not respond to Twitter , however did get a CSP feedback link last week. Which had rating and some feedback free text boxes. Filled in ranted about the need to ensure free speach is protected for members, especially those who believe in binary sex. Added in something about what was posted on Twitter and about it would be ridiculous for the CSP to define ‘ transphobia’ when there is not even and national definition of trans and that the CSP is a professional body and not political body etc etc.

Perfect 👏

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RadFizz · 11/02/2023 11:32

What was interesting about that "consultation" was that it only asked if they should adopt a definition of transphobia. Not what it should be. That is a far trickier question to answer but with Jack on the diversity committee it seems like nothing but TWAW will be acceptable.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/02/2023 19:47

The diversity committee is not very diverse, is it? Everyone has the TWAW mantra, same politics and is of similar age and most of them are in London.

Only one of them has blue hair, we must be grateful that, at least.

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RadFizz · 11/02/2023 21:03

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria Blue hair is Jack himself but I'm hoping the ones without pronouns next to their names are GC!

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Calyx72 · 12/02/2023 11:02

Good thread on Twitter about "transphobia"

twitter.com/nftguybuys/status/1584122334780145664?s=46&t=bhtKGk-tYFEDHGHYC_GtKA

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RadFizz · 15/02/2023 06:56

I missed this last month, but the trans member of the LGBT network (not the same as the diversity committee) tweeted to say that CSP should adopt this definition of transphobia, which is basically TWAW and anyone who disagrees is a hateful bigot. https://www.transactual.org.uk/transphobia

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 15/02/2023 09:49

Ah, Loui’s pinned tweet explains how rapists can be “she” too. I think. No mention of the victims of those sexual assaults. They must not matter.

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RadFizz · 16/02/2023 07:54

Someone needs to tell Louie that the only rapists who are shes started life as hes! Sounds like the LGBT network may as well change its name to the T network as that's all Louie cares about.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 16/02/2023 23:35

That’s harsh, @RadFizz , Loui is very clear that Loui cares about rapists too .

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RadFizz · 17/02/2023 13:01

Can't link it on the app but there's a thread in FWR about RCPsych now boasting about its Stonewall accreditation. At least CSP hasn't gone that far... yet!

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RadFizz · 26/02/2023 11:25

Just read this article on Elaine Miller and noticed it says a complaint was made about her to CSP. I wonder how that went and if she was investigated?

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Calyx72 · 26/02/2023 14:15

I don't know. I have 'liked' it on Twitter with my work account though (I am so brave)

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