Child protection crises in NI (Stonewall partner The Rainbow Project & others)

[SexNotGenderNI]

Stonewall partner with The Rainbow Project in NI. Remember Yaniv's all-ages topless swim events? Here's The Rainbow Project asking for donations to keep theirs going (they say 'wear whatever is comfortable'). We're putting in a complaint to the PSNI (who are captured) and to the Charity Commission (who we hope are not). Please share this far and wide. Shocking breach of child protection, and no-one seems to be noticing.

twitter.com/SexNotGenderNI/status/1489557635796209664

I'm not getting the message that 'wear what you feel comfortable in' entails flouting the normal coverage rules. I do feel quite sympathetic to this organisation tbh, I can see that going swimming may be an ordeal for some trans people and this group is trying to create a space where people aren't stared at, judged etc.

Don't really get the issue here? Just sounds like a specially arranged session for people who would otherwise feel to awkward and afraid to go swimming. What would you suggest instead?

It wasn't me who brought up intersex people on this thread.

It was stated on the poster. Even though the poster’s headline states “trans only”.

"All ages". Even wider than Gendered Intelligence with their half-naked, mixed sex swimming where 8 year olds are in sessions with 25 year olds.
https://genderedintelligence.co.uk/swimming.htmll_
“Trans-only swimming sessions for 8-25 year olds. Twice a month from January-May.
Wear what you want to swim, so long as your bottom half is covered.”

In safeguarding terms it has to be asked: what has happened to improve things after someone has been harmed by reducing safeguarding and mixing sexes through this ideology insisting it will be harmless?

The lobby shrug, say it doesn't matter, and carry on.

To pp: I believe you are fine to advertise a single sex facility or resource for female people so long as you make it plain that male people may enter at will and be welcomed. (That this excludes some females from using the space is also apparently not a problem; inclusion does not apply to them for some reason.)

So you can have Trans only swim, but not a womens only swim

I am happy with a 18+ trans only swim. Go for it!! A third space and great for transpeople.

And then we should obviously add a (biological) female only swim on another time.

@MrMrsJones

So you can have Trans only swim, but not a womens only swim

You can even have an LGBT+ specific rape crisis group, a male specific rape crisis group and a women's rape crisis group in which anyone of either sex is welcome.

But you absolutely can't have a female only group.

So you can have Trans only swim, but not a womens only swim

Funny that...

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

It wasn't me who brought up intersex people on this thread.

It was stated on the poster. Even though the poster’s headline states “trans only”.

So do you have a problem with intersex people being invited to this event? I think it makes a lot of sense, as we know intersex conditions are quite rare so there probably wouldn't be enough demand for an intersex only event.

Another reminder that intersex organisations have asked trans activists not to use them in their 'debates'

@Goatsaregreat

Another reminder that intersex organisations have asked trans activists not to use them in their 'debates'

They are being invited to go swimming, not being used in a debate.

Hmm. The lack of respect for other people's boundaries is very clear to see baba.

So non-binary female girls may be attending too?