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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Keep Prisons Single Sex

35 replies

Signalbox · 02/02/2022 20:21

Just putting this here. KPSS have a crowd funder going and are asking for support…

mobile.twitter.com/NoXYinXXprisons/status/1488967091046727681

Keep Prisons Single Sex
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KittyLeMew · 02/02/2022 23:37

I’ve donated but couldn’t get the Crowdfunder to work on my mobile, had to use my laptop.

Have emailed KPSS to let them know.

KittyLeMew · 03/02/2022 09:24

Bumping Smile

Thirtytimesround · 03/02/2022 09:27

Thank you. Donated.

DevonTF · 03/02/2022 09:28

Donated - and I am not even a bot

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 03/02/2022 15:00

Wow. Private Eye are getting their arses handed to them with the hashtags on Twitter today, and here's The New Statesman who want a go as well Angry

For fuck sake, screaming transphobe at us didn't work. Bigot didn't work. Right Wing didn't work. So what, now we're not real? Fuck ALL the way off!!

twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/1489249415164350474?t=ivZ-Po6uWcDgmIoDiYdZwQ&s=19

Signalbox · 03/02/2022 15:35

@DevonTF

Donated - and I am not even a bot
Can bots donate to crowd funders? That’d be good. A whole new source of funding 🤩
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FebruaryRainandSleet · 03/02/2022 15:39

Keeping prisons single-sex is very unpopular with some male offenders, I'm sure.

teawamutu · 03/02/2022 18:36

Never thought about it before, but the hashtag is wrong.

Should be #MakePrisonsSingleSex

#alsoNotABot

IvyTwines · 03/02/2022 21:54

I cancelled my New Statesman subscription after their 'Kosher Conspiracy' issue many moons ago. Sounds like they're still in the business of peddling conspiracy theories.

KittyLeMew · 03/02/2022 22:15

Also #notabot

I had a rant about that New Statesmen piece on another thread - wtf are they doing covering that and wtaf does that ‘factchecker’ think it’s doing - this isn’t some lighthearted celeb viral it’s a really fucking important campaign to prevent vulnerable women being sexually abused in prison - have a fucking word with yourselves. KPSS have been tweeting about it.

The irony when some actual TRAGIC TRA BOT #tragictrabot was trying to throw the vote in the Watford Observer about girls schools - literally the pettiest bot ever #pettybot 😂

BOT OFF!

Signalbox · 03/02/2022 22:27

Hopefully the bot conspiracy will draw even more attention to the great work that KPSS do!

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KittyLeMew · 03/02/2022 23:58

Yes! #botgoals

teawamutu · 04/02/2022 13:38

#StreisandBot

Jdsnake · 04/02/2022 15:03

wtaf does that ‘factchecker’ think it’s doing - this isn’t some lighthearted celeb viral

Logically.ai are a professional organisation that work with governments and large businesses, their previous publications before the #KPSS one included

"Bots Spread Disinformation That Indian Cabinet Removed Sikhs From Army"

"Pakistan-Based Disinformation Op Focuses on Mizoram-Assam Border"

"Tracking Nationalist Narratives On The Moplah Rebellion"

"Polarizing Misinfo Narratives Continue to Hijack Farmers' Protests"

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 05/02/2022 22:45

Why the hell are New Statesman and Private Eye backing men’s-rights activists against female prisoners?

You could hardly find a more powerless, vulnerable group than women in prison. But go ahead, boys, put the boot in. Hope it makes you feel good.

KittyLeMew · 05/02/2022 23:23

So doesn’t the work of a fairly small grass roots women’s rights organisation seem like a bit of a swerve?

Reading their report, it’s shockingly biased and ill-researched, particularly considering how they position themselves, can’t work our whether they did this off their own steam (because it’s a hot button issue - so great publicity - horrifying) or were they paid to do so (horrifying).

Either way it reads like the work of a couple of first year uni lib fems with some techy botchat chucked in and frankly they can go fuck themselves. They are pulling this with an organisation fighting for women who ARE being abused by violent men including rapists and paedophiles who are gaming the system. But yeah, sure, go after KPSS, subject vulnerable women to further abuse, woohoo fight corruption great.

People honestly sicken me.

And once again I don’t give a fuck if no one tweets the hashtag! It’s wrong. Women are being harassed and abused. Men are gaming the system. This isn’t some bleep bloop hashtag issue, it’s a horrible reality for women, many of whom have been abused throughout their lives.

#keepprisonssinglesex

#notabot

KittyLeMew · 05/02/2022 23:41

Anyway that’s reminded me I must send my #notabot postcard to Private Eye, I’ve got a nice replica Suffragettes postcard that will work perfectly Grin

DevonTF · 06/02/2022 08:50

For anyone on Twitter - Adding KPSS to you name is also a great way of showing up the shite they wrote.

sharksarecool · 06/02/2022 09:04

It shouldn't even matter how many people agree/disagree with KPSS. I should matter what is right and fair. The whole article is working on the assumption that people people should set their moral compasses by what is popular rather than what is true. If we go back in history there were times when almost everybody thought the world was flat and that slavery was a good thing. But some things will always be wrong even regardless of what popular opinion thinks

TheWeeDonkey · 06/02/2022 09:31

I'm going to come across as a right idiot, but I'm confused.

How is it an extremist, unpopular and entirely new POV that only female people should be in women prison and girls young offenders facilities?

I heard somewhere that we've be "radicalised" to believe this but it's something I've always believed and it didn't seem so extreme around 10 or so years ago.

So what's going on? Why is MSM and some lib fems taking on MRA causes and fighting for them so desperately?

KittyLeMew · 06/02/2022 14:19

The latest tactic is to make sweeping claims about how we have been radicalised, indoctrinated, live in an echo chamber, are paranoid, or sucked into a wave of moral panic when WE are the people concerned with biological fact and they are literally trying to call a spade a fork, then accuse us of forkphobia when we question this.

If you haven’t read it already, this lazy article lumps us into one homogenous radicalised mass of tragic old women who need to get a life and think about something else:
www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/02/feminism-has-been-reduced-to-the-transgender-debate

Well dimwit, I’ve felt like this all my life, lived through lad/laddette culture and hated it, wrote my dissertation on the artificiality and limitations of gender stereotypes on which you and your pals now define female and male identities. Mumsnet didn’t radicalise me but thank god it allows me to communicate with other women who prioritise the safety of women and girls.

I’ve amended one of her paragraphs below. No, Marie, you are not a feminist.

“It is infuriating, of course, but also saddening. There are many problems facing women today and we will only be able to solve them by, at times, working with people who we disagree with on other issues. Rape convictions are abysmally low [AND WE ARE FIGHTING TO REMOVE SAFE SINGLE SEX SPACES INCLUDING CHANGING ROOMS AND TOILETS; FOR MALE BODIED RAPISTS AND MURDERERS TO BE HOUSED IN THE FEMALE ESTATE; FOR VICTIMS TO BE DENIED SINGLE SEX RAPE COUNSELLING] and police forces are institutionally sexist [AND HOUNDING FEMINISTS FOR WRONGTHINK]; mothers are still discriminated against in the workplace [DID I SAY MOTHERS - I MEAN BIRTHING PERSON/CHEST FEEDER] and refuges are still woefully underfunded [AND TRANSWOMEN ARE POSTING GLOATING VIDEOS FROM HAVING ACCESSED THESE SINGLE SEX SPACES - WHICH BTW SHOULDN’T BE SINGLE SEX DESPITE ABUSED WOMEN’S VULNERABILITY AND TRAUMA].”

KittyLeMew · 06/02/2022 19:15

Brilliant article!

Logically my arse!

#notabot

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/02/2022 10:36

Now, I don’t doubt for one moment that there are bots sowing misinformation on social media, and identifying them can be hard, but what Logically have done is produce a partisan piece of disinformation with the sole intention of discrediting the Keep Prisons Single Sex campaign. They don’t robustly identify any bots, nor do they quantify the impact of those bots on the trend itself.

Definitely. Great article.

Someone on Twitter did a thread about how Logically aren't exactly the politically neutral fact checkers they present themselves to be:

https://twitter.com/josthorns/status/1485992894309847057?s=20&t=mlhd9v7iIpXX4hhaUBVktA

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/02/2022 11:33

Another more technical article

jamesomalley.substack.com/p/i-am-extremely-sceptical-of-claims

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