Tom Harwood saying the quiet part out loud

[MiladyBerserko]

Which is 'mistakes were made'

Rape is a mistake now and women are just fodder

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@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Why is Tom Harwood projecting his own horror of women with armpit hair onto women?

I can assure every single one of you that no woman has ever chased me out of any kind of gym changing room for my hairy armpits. It will never happen.

I've never seen a woman being chased out of the changing rooms on account of her hairy armpits 😂 Hairy women don't pass, yet transwomen do? 🤔

Tom's examples of what a woman is becomes more and more ridiculous when he opens his mouth.

He also should be starting to get the TRAs on his back because he is all about 'passing' privileges. He is not getting it at all.

@OvaHere

I can't help but notice in this clip how polite Tom is to Paul. No gasping, tutting or head shaking. No calling him rude or acting like he committed the worlds worst crime for talking about men being men.

Rather different from how he treated Posie. I wonder why that is?

It's almost as if he knows the difference between men and women 🤔

I find it hard to believe he's still doing this after the absolute thrashing he got last time. I can only think that either he's really thick, or he tweets and never looks at his twitter replies. The ratios have been astounding.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4444319-Who-the-hell-is-Tom-Harwood

Hairy women don't pass

Those who try this idea never follow it through to the logical conclusion.

Why (if this is indeed actually happening) have female people, after over a century of butch women of all kinds being very usual in female spaces, begun to be anxious about masculine presenting people in female spaces?

What change has happened that means women now know they have to be wary about males in spaces labelled as single sex, where females have not consented to males being present?

Males started this. So now trying to shame women for getting anxious about it?

We're back to 'stop upsetting me with your silly crying when I'm beating you'

His opinions are even weirder than the TWAW - No Debate lot.

He doesn't think just anyone is trans. He thinks someone is trans if they are making an effort. So a person with genuine gender dysphoria doesn't count, but a man with long hair, makeup, nail varnish and a dress is because (presumably) they are making an effort to appear "like a woman".

I don't know where that leaves most of us with out short hair, jeans and doc martens. Or doesn't it work the other way around?

Those who try this idea never follow it through to the logical conclusion.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

Upton Sinclair

@MrBIobby

Those who try this idea never follow it through to the logical conclusion.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

Upton Sinclair

Such a good quote there MrB!!

Such a good quote there MrB!!

It really is 😁 Sums up the problem nicely I think.

I was part way through a long response to his ignorant and ridiculous arguments, but I just can’t be bothered so I’ve deleted it. All I want to know is: who is paying Tom to say this nonsense and how much is he getting paid?

I like this new youtuber, Feminist Claire. Here she is talking about little Tom's appearance with Portillo on GB News

What about non-binaries? Are they neither cat-calling nor being cat-called, is that how you can tell? I've always wondered.

@allmywhat

I wish someone would make the advocates for males in women’s prisons explain in detail why a third space is inappropriate. All the sobbing about the poor TW who’d be vulnerable in men’s prisons but they never explain why a TW wing is the wrong solution. Access to women is not a human right.

The TRAs are so insistent that TWAW and indistinguishable from women, surely a trans wing does mean housing them with other women? What am I missing here? Are these transwomen prisoners being horribly transphobic towards their lovely trans sisters? Awful. And they call us bigots!

The problem openly talked about is that it puts limits on the extent of a transition. If TWAW then they are just a different kind of female, and so exclusion from other females is discrimination and rejection of their gender identity.

The answer to this is: sex does not change, and the limit to which a transition can be validated is other people's sex based rights.

Because otherwise you are (major issue 1) forcing compelled belief, compelled speech, (major issue 2) the hierarchy of male people's wishes over female people's rights and beliefs and (major issue 3) actual female bodily autonomy and consent, and no matter how you cut it up, it is (major issue 4) male supremacism because while insisting that male people are another kind of female there is a sex based group that has more rights and value than another sex based group. Not to mention (major issue 5) the right of females to perceive a person as they do, as opposed to basing their perception on what a male person chooses it to be, and all the issues of privacy, dignity, etc don't go away.

The unsaid bit: there are many reasons for transition. There is a sexual component for some TW, well evidenced. Female people (major issue 6) have a right not to be used for other people's sexual experiences. And yes, there is (major issue 7) no human right of a male to access to females. And let's be honest about this it is access to the physical presence of females, regardless of whether those females consent or not: no other part of the female but her physical form is required. So how can you say (major issue 8) this is not an entitlement for males to make use of female bodies for their own benefit? Where exactly is that bit in the human rights act?

Is this ok?

And that's before we even start on the multiple other major issues that we have to acknowledge that some males will use that access to actually and directly harm that female, who should have been in state care where there was an equal duty of care to her as well as to the male.

The line has to be: TWATW and that is great and all resources and facilities can be provided to support this.

The limits of transition are where female humans' sex based rights are affected. And 'no' is a word that adults have to learn to deal with, because no group of people is more important than another, and everyone has rights.

@jlpartnerrs

I've never quite got the rage before about this - I mean - it's so wrong, that's a given, but seeing these two MEN discussing which MEN it's possibly ok to put behind WOMEN's prison bars has suddenly ignited this viceral "how the fuck dare they think that it's their right to discuss this even" ?

Yeah, when the scales fall, boy do they hit the ground with a crash you can hear from space.

@ArabellaScott

What about non-binaries? Are they neither cat-calling nor being cat-called, is that how you can tell? I've always wondered.

I think you're onto something here.

Women = sex objects. If they're not sexually attractive, what's the point of them? Those women who don't attract the sexual attention of men are irrelevant, and so occupy some sexless hinterland, which has been recently claimed and relabelled as an identity in itself.

Tom is helpfully directing us to the places he's assigned according to his own logic. (Just don't tell the enbys - they don't like it when middle aged women who don't perform femininity claim their label.)

How not to do twitter⬇️
The question is will Twitter jail him?

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Harwood seems to have empathy only for one side of the argument, and that side is not women. So why should we listen to his arguments. And yes, seeing three men negotiating a problem where none of them would ever suffer from being on the victim side is galling.

I love the false equivalence of the "this is like being bigoted about gays/blacks having full access to public spaces"

It is so dumb. So dumb

95% of sexual offences are committed by males and 88% of their victims are female. Safeguarding isn't bigotry in the face of those stats.

Can guarantee Tom harwood knows whether someone is a trans woman or trans man when it comes to relationship purposes.

Harwood believes male people are people who ‘dress male’ and female people are people who ‘dress female’. He’s incapable of understanding the feminist analysis of this situation.

@ArabellaScott

What about non-binaries? Are they neither cat-calling nor being cat-called, is that how you can tell? I've always wondered.

They’re Schrödinger’s cat-called.

He did the whole "human, you are a woman because your womaning' but twisted and turned when the woman asked how she would identify what womaning is and tried to answer by repeating the same thing with reorganised words

The more that happens the easier it is for people to see how sexist that is.

I note its still up so will the account allowtweets this morning?

@spacehardware

I love the false equivalence of the "this is like being bigoted about gays/blacks having full access to public spaces"

It is so dumb. So dumb

95% of sexual offences are committed by males and 88% of their victims are female. Safeguarding isn't bigotry in the face of those stats.

Can guarantee Tom harwood knows whether someone is a trans woman or trans man when it comes to relationship purposes.

The inconvenient fact a certain kind of man like to pretend doesn’t exist.

How much violence towards gay men is perpetrated by heterosexual men? Should we not talk about that?* statistically I would imagine violence towards gay men is in the main not from women or gay men so surely there’s never been a need for separate spaces for gay men to be themselves because it’s just bigotry to keep hetero men apart from them.

*not here, wider world.