Loudon school rapist put on sex registry for life

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I hope everyone who enabled this and called these girls liars (looking at you Obama) hangs their heads in shame.

Shame on all of you.

"Over the years this court has read many psychosexual reports, and when I read yours, frankly, it scared me."

www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-loudoun-rapist-sentenced-put-on-sex-offender-registry-for-life

This whole case was absolutely sickening.
The attacks, the school’s response, the media’s response, the public’s response. Sick sick sick

If there's a crowd funder to sue every fucker who enabled this, I'll gladly contribute.

If I'm reading that right, the boy was sending nude photos when he was 10, by 14 he had a charge of 'forced sodomy' against him, the school were allowed to handle this internally (no police investigation but then why the ankle bracelet?) And he went to a new school and used the girls' facilities. The poor father nearly went to jail for defending his daughter. Now the school district is 'independently' investigating itself.

Seriously?

What a shitshow.

And it's wider than this one story, although obviously this case has certain things which raise even more massive problems.

On the first wider point.

How many rapes in USA schools get properly handled rather than brushed under carpet.
This sex offender had previous convictions and whatnot. I would need to see stats and decent analysis of probable incidence Vs reports, prosecution etc.

Because should not forget that here sexual assault / rape happen, across the school system paid state everywhere. And not long ago huge media coverage when girls who been attacked raised it publically. So many girls. Good as zero action.

Question if girl led on, misread things. Over reacting? Not remembering correctly? Etc.

Often suggest girl different class. No change for boy. She made feel in wrong. No police no nothing.

Boy attack girl way most common obv not 100% though. Addressing things girls would improve things for all victims though.

Heard/read loads girls told about primary school assaults. No action. Often told off by playground supervisor etc. Sure read a girl 6 raped two older boys toilets. Others assaulted. Bogs often seem to feature.

Massive issue for... Obv whole of society so WHY FFS is this seen as women issue only? (Rhetorical).

Really wanted to remind everyone that this is not a one off rare thing. And not just USA thing. It's massive issue around the place.

Tbc

This case v worrying because situation meant outrageous behaviour from those who should have totally focussed on victim.

IN GENERAL- Children esp girls told to be kind to everyone. Give chance. Understand some can exhibit unusual behaviour but that's not a reason to judge. In fact it prob needs need a friend more. Be especially understanding of those who might find harder to fit in. Be kind. Be helpful. Be accepting and welcoming. Acceptance without exception.

This is messaged CONSTANTLY to girls. It insists that ignore instincts, whether actually like the person, be constantly kind generous helpful. Feminine role. Self sacrificing, always put yourself last.

This is TOTAL SHIT. Dangerous shit.

Victim dad kicks off when school not doing anything after rape reported.

He was reported widely as being bigoted arsehole for pushing for action. He got threats and character annihilation.

Police called to school around incident. To deal with angry parent -the dad.

SHORTLY AFTER all that.

School decided to propose change all single sex to gender.

Are they trolling? The dad? Making a point?
Or just monumentally thick?
Both?

Meeting to discuss. Bloke for all schools around there said definitely no attacks any our schools. Dad gets v angry. Police come he arrested.

And on and on. A litany of active hostility towards rape victim and her naturally angry parent. Lies from school. Victim blaming. Inc court 2nd victim lawyer said well you know they had consensual sex before... And on and on and on and on.

The widespread attitude to boys sexually assaulting girls in schools, and zero consequences. Is a massive issue.

The fact that so many times in so many situations, having a declared trans ID actively protects the male who commits sex offences (other offences this reaction way less prevalent).
The standard reaction is.
*No way this happened/ happened as reported
*Anyone supporting victim is a transphobe/USA style Christian right/wants all trans people to be executed by the state, or somehow otherwise got rid of
*Including victim. What's their motivation, paranoia, beliefs for making all this up
*Trans status irrelevant, all crime is people problem, female people rape too. MVAWG and similar is sexist and unfair
*Blah blah don't care STFU stop whining

This adds to the already standard societal approach of. She's done something wrong. Innocent till proven guilty! False accusations common. Blah blah.

It is such a horrendous case on so many levels. Do we know if this is being reported in mainstream US media?

Anytime something is reported the only reaction is STFU Bigot. It was the same with LA Spa thing. Here on all the men in women's prisons.... Nothing to see here, move along.

Just proof that TRA = MRA.

But what is wrong with all the grownups???? Supposedly sensible people? All misogynists?

@PaleBlueMoonlight

It is such a horrendous case on so many levels. Do we know if this is being reported in mainstream US media?

It was reasonably widely misreported in a few ways for some time. Partly because gender critical people jumped on it as a transgirl raped a girl in gender neutral bathrooms, which is unfortunate as it hides the very real moral here behind what does look like transphobia ie willing to believe anything if it makes trans people look bad. The bigger problem is just males in general and they shouldn’t be allowed in girls bathrooms, and a broad atmosphere of misogyny relabelled as woke that says girls don’t deserve protection, a proven dangerous criminal should be given access to girls without sufficient protective measures and two raped girls don’t deserve justice, a school lying about what happened to protect its reputation is far more important.

Sorry @timeisnotaline, are you blaming this on gender critical women for being fucking furious? Or is my sleepless mind fog misinterpreting what you’ve written?

This proves the fear that so many have. Males will 'self ID' to attack women. Then TRA and their political allies will deny the attack happened rather than look at how self ID has allowed it to happen.
This boy was repeatedly entering what should have been a single sex space and was allowed to because he wore a skirt. Far from being the fault of gender critical, logical people, this is proof their fears are legitimate and real.
The spa incident and this incident show that predators will use self ID to offend and the offenders will be defended by the left wing press and politicians.

I think timeisnotaline is saying it is transphobic to report rapes by transgendered people because it makes them look bad.

Am I reading the pp correct

Gender critical people pointed out it was a male in the female place which was a problem as sone males have a problem with behaviour,

and so its thier fault he wasn't stopped earlier because that distracted others into thinking poor transgirl they get such hate

so the GC people should not have said male in the ladies is a bad idea and then the prosecution would have been faster - because?

People are quicker to believe wrong of girls so a girl on girl crime will get picked up easier than boy on girl ?

But that would just enable a false narrative to persist ( self is is harmless, all "true" transwomen are harmless ) and lead to more rapes ?

Wtf did I just read? Where is whoever it was in the school that knew about the rape, lied about it, and changed bathrooms to mixed sex? They need to answer for this surely.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Sorry *@timeisnotaline*, are you blaming this on gender critical women for being fucking furious? Or is my sleepless mind fog misinterpreting what you’ve written?

No, this is an awful set of incidents compounded by some disgusting behaviour by the (prosecutor/judge?) against the girls father, and horrific and what should be career ending lies and cover up by the school. I think it did lose traction as a story because there was misinformation going around that the boy was allowed in because he was trans, which he’s not, and because the bathrooms were gender neutral, which they weren’t until later, so people were wondering what was true and what wasn’t. I was wondering this, as it was clear there were different versions of the story going around.

Ah

@Lovelyricepudding

I think timeisnotaline is saying it is transphobic to report rapes by transgendered people because it makes them look bad.

No, not at all. The boy is not trans. I’m saying it looks transphobic to say a boy who raped a girl is a trans boy who raped a girl when there doesn’t seem to be any evidence for this at all, apart from wearing a skirt which was just one little part of him being seriously disturbed. (no, I don’t think a male wearing a skirt makes him a psychopath, just as I don’t think a male wearing a skirt makes him trans. This boy clearly has serious issues)

The second victim had her mother read a statement, in which she asked “why me?” She said that she knew the assailant was wearing an ankle monitor when he arrived at her school as a transfer student, but gave him a chance anyway. She did not know that he was wearing it because he had been arrested for forcible sodomy in his previous school, and felt that he took advantage of her kindness.

Be kind girls, be kind, no matter what.

Appalling.

I generally think the litigation culture in the US is unhealthy, but I really hope parents sue the arse off this despicable individual:

"To address concern by parents that this could cause a safety issue, Superintendent Scott Zeigler said definitively that there had been no bathroom sexual assaults in the Loudoun schools."

The bigger problem is just males in general and they shouldn’t be allowed in girls bathrooms
And
a broad atmosphere of misogyny relabelled as woke that says girls don’t deserve protection,

These statements I completely agree with.

No, not at all. The boy is not trans. I’m saying it looks transphobic to say a boy who raped a girl is a trans boy who raped a girl when there doesn’t seem to be any evidence for this at all, apart from wearing a skirt which was just one little part of him being seriously disturbed. (no, I don’t think a male wearing a skirt makes him a psychopath, just as I don’t think a male wearing a skirt makes him trans. This boy clearly has serious issues)

Ah. The 'not true trans' argument. Wearing a skirt meets the definition of cross-dressing and cross-dressing falls firmly under Stonewall's definition of trans.

So wearing a skirt and using the girl’s bathroom wasn’t sufficient evidence that he was trans? According to Stonewall, cross dressing falls within the definition of trans. And according to Galop, politely pointing out to a male that facilities are single sex is a transphobic act.
How are we to know who is trans and who is not? And how do we keep women and girls safe in the meantime while we work this out?

I'm also nonplussed at the idea that a school boy wearing a skirt in school and gaining access to the girls' toilet has nothing to do with trans at all. In a school in the midst of a campaign to facilitate access by males into toilet spaces for girls.

It's grim to see that my difficulty to make these completely independent issues marks me out as having contributed to the problems of this case in some way.

You don't need any criteria to be trans, just saying it out loud, is enough. Or people believing that you are trans even if you're not, is also enough to claim discrimination on that basis.

Did he say he was trans? Because he was wearing a skirt and a blouse, and was accessing the girls toilets.

And Soon after, the school board sought to pass a policy that would permit transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

Unless he stood there and said even though I'm wearing a skirt and a blouse and I want to use the girls toilets I'm not trans?

Apparently his mother claims that he's not trans, simply pansexual. But since she's on record for trying to put blame onto the first victim, and generally trying to excuse his behaviour, I wouldn't suggest taking her word for it.

That poor father.

He was desperate to have his daughter seen as a person who had been maltreated and deserved justice.

He was painted as an agressive, insane, moron.

He was a loving dad who wanted his daughter, and all the girls, to be safe from a proven sexual predator.

Poor sod. I hope he and his family are ok.