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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

David Lammy the Feminist

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HoliHormonalTigerlilly · 05/01/2022 11:56

So apparently the Lamster DOES support some women who need safe spaces:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYWLURgtrnE/?utmmedium=copylink

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WomanStillNotAFeeling · 05/01/2022 17:57

Sistah Space sound like a great organisation and I hope Lammy listened to them

DdraigGoch · 05/01/2022 18:04

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

CheeseMmmm · 06/01/2022 07:48

I wonder whether he will get the outraged reaction or they will...

CheeseMmmm · 06/01/2022 07:51

Pretty much all the TWAW types don't believe it at all.

They all have a huge disconnect between their statements about tw and when they talk about anything else to do with women or girls. (The latter they forget TWAW and use women girls to mean sex, I've never seen anything by anyone in the public eye/ news outlets etc do anything else).

Totalwasteofpaper · 06/01/2022 07:55

@ANameChangeAgain

I don't think people realise how vital it is that ethnicities or faiths have their own refuges, so good for him for raising awareness. Its damage limitation for him, at least he isn't calling us rights hoarding dinosaurs this week.
Yeah this.

Lammy will need to do a whole lot more to get back in the good graces of our household.
I think my DH was more outraged about it than I was

ThePrionOne · 06/01/2022 08:33

Unless the group have stated that they consider women to be a sex and not a gender identity, I don’t see this as any kind of change for Lammy. Presumably he always supported women’s rights in theory. It’s only the wrong kind of women who are dinosaurs.

Abhannmor · 06/01/2022 18:29

He is on the horns of a dilemma. If it OK to insult women as a sex class for 'hoarding rights' then why should one group of women be allowed a single sex space and not others?

Goatsaregreat · 06/01/2022 18:46

When his grasp of issues leads him to pontificate about men growing cervixes, I suspect he's reached his peak of insight into what a woman is. I'm not sure we can realistically expect much more from him sadly.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/01/2022 18:53

Well, he's doing something useful for a change if he gets them an uptick in donations. Sistah Space are fantastic.

KimikosNightmare · 07/01/2022 00:32

There was a thread recently about Sistah Space. It wasn't a 100% ringing endorsement.

Sistah Space seem to work with Sisters Uncut. Sisters Uncut's gender policy is
Our meetings should be inclusive and supportive spaces for all women (trans, intersex and cis) and all nonbinary, agender and gender variant people

twitter.com/Sistah_Space/status/1370889054150086658?s=20

twitter.com/SistersUncut/status/1281883021617041408?s=20

m.facebook.com/eastendsistersuncut/photos/east-end-sisters-uncut-are-exciting-to-be-working-with-sistah-space-against-dome/1030414673710630/

HoliHormonalTigerlilly · 07/01/2022 06:22

@Abhannmor

He is on the horns of a dilemma. If it OK to insult women as a sex class for 'hoarding rights' then why should one group of women be allowed a single sex space and not others?
Yup
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KimikosNightmare · 07/01/2022 09:55

Sistah Space is an advice resource, not a refuge. Do you think they would turn away a black trans woman- given they have worked with Sisters Uncut and have had substantial funding from Black Lives Matter UK?

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 07/01/2022 10:38

@KimikosNightmare

Sistah Space is an advice resource, not a refuge. Do you think they would turn away a black trans woman- given they have worked with Sisters Uncut and have had substantial funding from Black Lives Matter UK?
I think they’d direct them to the specialised support they need, as they should.
David Lammy the Feminist
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/01/2022 10:41

I doubt it. I've always suspected that they plan to include males, but also that they may not have actually been forced to find out how it would work in reality.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/01/2022 10:42

Cross-post! Wow, I didn't realise they'd already been tested and proven their mettle to centre women.

CheeseMmmm · 08/01/2022 02:15

I'm more interested in Lammy tbh rather than policies of small support orgs who are in a really difficult position between funding and current climate re female only iyswim.

Lammy is like all the others.

Parrots phrases and virtue signals when seems politically expedient. Knows fuck all about any of it. Slags off female population I mean nothing new or contraversial there.

Female only org? New, grass roots? Help black women with DV, sexual violence?
Well he's not going to miss out on that photo op is he. Not going to say ah hello. Tw allowed? No? RIGHTS HOARDING DINOSAURS!

Come on Lammy! Stick to your guns!

Loopytiles · 28/05/2022 08:50

USA now further restricting abortion brings to mind Mr Lammy’s ‘rights hoarding’ comment.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2022 08:54

The PR machine in motion here. Mr Lammy has already shown us what he is.

timeisnotaline · 28/05/2022 08:57

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken well done them what a perfect response. I really really really wish one of these trans support organisations or you know, a group like the greens would work to create a trans dv support service. To help the community they continually explain are so marginalised. I’m sure many are victims of dv and need help, but focused specialised help would be the best. A truly safe space.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 28/05/2022 09:23

Abhannmor · 06/01/2022 18:29

He is on the horns of a dilemma. If it OK to insult women as a sex class for 'hoarding rights' then why should one group of women be allowed a single sex space and not others?

I think his reasoning is clear. Black women deserve protection, the others can get in the bin.

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