Jon Stewart sticking the knife in to JKR over "Jewish" goblins

[WandaWomblesaurus73]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10368289/Jon-Stewart-accuses-JK-Rowling-anti-Semitism-Harry-Potter.html

Ffs

I think the Australian flag is now all seven-point stars (and one five). I presume the floor of Australia House was designed/laid before the seventh point was added to the Commonwealth Star.

I doubt JS would have been cancelled for dishonestly smearing JKR. That strikes me as being a fashionable activity at the moment.

Glad JS has at least come out saying he was just fabricating bs for a joke. He had no alternative really as he obviously couldn't defend what he had said. Possibly self protection rather than clarifying that there is no basis for smearing JKR. It was the very least he could do, really.

He's probably more likely to be pounced on and 'cancelled' for saying he was only joking when he said that JKR enthusiastically wanted the goblin bankers to be based on the anti semitic caricatures (but with sharper teeth).

I must admit I have never seen/heard JS. What UK channel is/ was he on?

I think he's a US chat show host, Cailleach.

@Cailleach1

I doubt JS would have been cancelled for dishonestly smearing JKR. That strikes me as being a fashionable activity at the moment.

Glad JS has at least come out saying he was just fabricating bs for a joke. He had no alternative really as he obviously couldn't defend what he had said. Possibly self protection rather than clarifying that there is no basis for smearing JKR. It was the very least he could do, really.

He's probably more likely to be pounced on and 'cancelled' for saying he was only joking when he said that JKR enthusiastically wanted the goblin bankers to be based on the anti semitic caricatures (but with sharper teeth).

I must admit I have never seen/heard JS. What UK channel is/ was he on?

I think that what some people are suggesting is that he may have been afraid of being sued by JKR for saying she was antisemitic rather than he was afraid of being cancelled for saying it, no one gets cancelled for talking shit about JKR, quite the opposite it seems, people talk to shit about JKR to get themselves out of being cancelled if they say the wrong thing in "Wokeland"

Comedians not able to tell jokes, without someone jumping on them. I think he was right on the edge with the jokes but I found some of it funny - the JK sharpening the teeth thing was funny (for me) because it's such an absurd image.

Glad JS has at least come out saying he was just fabricating bs for a joke. He had no alternative really as he obviously couldn't defend what he had said. Possibly self protection rather than clarifying that there is no basis for smearing JKR. It was the very least he could do, really.

Maybe self protection, but I also don't think JS wants people to use him as source/tool to beat a stick at JKR. I felt that was he was objecting to the most. He clearly loves the films too.

'In Rowling's hugely successful books and the subsequent films, the goblins who run the bank are depicted as ill tempered, diminutive creatures who are the guardians of the gold.

The first book describes one as "about a head shorter than Harry".

"He had a swarthy, clever face, a pointed beard, and Harry noticed, very long fingers and feet," it says.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59893206

He had a swarthy, clever face, a pointed beard, and Harry noticed, very long fingers and feet

Apart from the feet and beard, it sounds like Snape.

Maybe self protection, but I also don't think JS wants people to use him as source/tool to beat a stick at JKR. I felt that was he was objecting to the most. He clearly loves the films too.

Yes, that came across, Bunty. He had the chance to say 'I love the films, but...' like you're supposed to, and he didn't. It's a distraction and a trap and he didn't let himself get caught out.

He doesn't need to apologise for liking HP or wade into anything, just like Oswald didn't about being mates with Chappelle (but unfortunately chose to)

I saw goody Proctor with the Devil. I saw goody Rowling with the Devil.

Who's next, I wonder?

Sorry yes @PolkadotsAndMoonbeams (& huge apologies to any Australians) - my attention wandered & I posted when I was in the middle of editing

Flag reform was 1908 & AH wasn’t opened until 10 years later, and while construction had been delayed by WWI the site was only purchased in 1912. Diplomatic Representation in London began in 1906 - it’s entirely possible they’d Grand Plans from then. I imagine simply in practical terms a 6-pointed star would be easier to render than one with 5 or 7 points, too. Regardless, they’re not about to put a big Star of David in the middle of their floor - all the jumping up & down is faintly reminiscent of people having conniptions about seeing swastikas in use in the 1900s-1920s [outside Germany]…

@nauticant

all supposition and opinion.

Including this bit?

JS has behaved incredibly poorly firstly by making the initial slander and secondly for then weaselling about trying to put the blame onto Newsweek rather than taking responsibility for his own actions.

I honestly don’t know what happened and what JS did or what he thought. To me, the above does look like opinion.

A number of other films have used Australia House as a location too. Funny nobody has said a peep about say, Wonder Woman or X-Men: first class.

moviemaps.org/locations/b5

I was interested in the number of people on Twitter who claimed to have been Saying This For Years but who’d never mentioned it on said platform until this kicked off despite seemingly tweeting their every thought. There are certainly people who have been saying this for years - but an awful lot of people have been very keen to claim they were in first with this; just as a worrying number have uncritically accepted it must be true & are falling over themselves to say they Need To Do Better.

@NitroNine

Oh dear. Twitter Monitors i. Do Not Approve Of This Thread (I know, shocking); ii. continue to find cultural imperialism utterly irresistible; & iii. have given me The Cringe with (ii) & the projecting-like-the-world’s-cinemas-combined. So very inconsiderate when it’s breakfast time.

Gosh, they're not impressed with me! One of them says 'these people have never engaged with literary analysis'. Time to hand back my literature-based degree, I suppose. :(

@Tanith

"Chang is a Korean first name and you don't generally get see that surname translated as Chang from Chinese in the US (because many US Chinese are from Taiwan); so a lot of 3rd gen Korean American students decided JKR was Kish mixing up a Korean first name and got offended."

There are 20+ Cho Changs on Linked In so it's evidently a name here.
Chang as a surname is common enough in the UK.

I went to school with the daughter of, and now live on the same street as a family whose surname is Chang. We would have been in HP year group.

Literary analysis of a film? Is that a thing?

(Admittedly I only did English at Literature A-Level.)

Poor Gasp0de

ScreamingMeMe
Someone innocently asked if similar criticisms had been levelled at Tolkien. What they should have done is researched for themselves & presented their findings because nobody ever just asks a question in a conversation. No. That’s not a thing. And absolutely that thread doesn’t descend into “Were Tolkiens Goblins An Antisemitic Trope [& Was Tolkien Generally A Big Racist]?” in any way at all. Definitely not.

@ScreamingMeMe

Literary analysis of a film? Is that a thing?

(Admittedly I only did English at Literature A-Level.)

I think one would rather refer to it as 'textual' analysis?

Luna is also an Irish character and imo one of the best in the series, no Irish stereotypes at all. Also plenty of the English characters were a bit thick, it's so silly, JK Rowling comes across as such a caring person, these allegations against her are pretty bizarre and a complete character assassination

I know that the actress is Irish but I didn't realise that the character was intended to be. The Lovegoods live in Devon.

@NitroNine

Poor Gasp0de

ScreamingMeMe
Someone innocently asked if similar criticisms had been levelled at Tolkien. What they should have done is researched for themselves & presented their findings because nobody ever just asks a question in a conversation. No. That’s not a thing. And absolutely that thread doesn’t descend into “Were Tolkiens Goblins An Antisemitic Trope [& Was Tolkien Generally A Big Racist]?” in any way at all. Definitely not.

Oh I see! Thanks.

@DdraigGoch

Luna is also an Irish character and imo one of the best in the series, no Irish stereotypes at all. Also plenty of the English characters were a bit thick, it's so silly, JK Rowling comes across as such a caring person, these allegations against her are pretty bizarre and a complete character assassination

I know that the actress is Irish but I didn't realise that the character was intended to be. The Lovegoods live in Devon.

Yes someone pointed that out earlier, I haven't read the books I just assumed she was supposed to be Irish because she kept her own Irish accent in the films

OMG. I've just been taking a trip down the TRA twitter rabbithole, trying to listen to alternative points of view. This is one of the threads that went viral, criticising the Harry Potter books for being bigoted, after that article about Jon Stewart was published.

Let's be honest. If Rowling was not a supporter of Zionism and hadn't been hating on "cancel culture" these naysayers would be trying to have her books pulled off the shelves for this. Chickens are coming home to roost.

Read that again: a supporter of Zionism. So this woman is saying the success of the Harry Potter series is a Jewish plot?!?!?!

Sometimes when I come across weird threads on twitter I don't know which is more worrying. The though that these people might be just making up what they write (and others are believing them) or the thought that they actually believe it themselves.

It's a real insight into the human brain, twitter. And I don't think I like it very much.

Jumped the gun a bit on that one.

" I just assumed she was supposed to be Irish because she kept her own Irish accent in the films"

Didn't Rhys Ifans also adopt an Irish accent to match hers, although he's actually Welsh?