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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Legal Q: Can we all require that the court calls us a made up name? re beastiality sex offender

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aweegc · 23/12/2021 22:56

It appears that the sex offender with the blonde bob wig was not only not a woman (shock), but wasn't even legally either. Yet, this offender was able to require the court to call him a name that wasn't legally his and apparently apply pronouns too. Is this legally normal? I thought about posting this in legal, but I don't know how that board would respond to the trans issue involved here and I don't really want to discuss 'be kind' and all that. So, if Big Bazza a convicted drug dealer was in court on further drug charges, would he be called by his legal name Norman Nelly, or could he compel the court to refer to him in all addresses as Big Bazza (I do not mean the prosecution/defence using the name sarcastically/warmly to colour their positions) with pronouns boss/nails? If Lizard Man was in court could he compel the court to use his preferred pronouns green/slimy? In both hypothetical cases they are socially referred to by those terms.

Is there no rule for how to address defendants in court be based on legal reality?

The related article is in the DM. To avoid clicking on it, the only extra info really is that as his legal sex (article says gender) was male, he's in the male estate.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10340329/Transgender-paedophile-60-jailed-20-months-having-sex-dog-sent-male-prison.html

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KimThomas · 25/12/2021 14:50

@CheeseMmmm

Kate McCann surely immediately for most people Madeline McCann is first thought.

I've seen this before...

I have a feeling one transwoman used a name referencing a v much disliked vocal radical feminist who was sex> gender.

I have a feeling her views have changed somewhat but not relevant.

It was a fuck you to her.

The person who attacked Julie Bindel in Edinburgh used the name Cathy Brennan, after an American feminist.
CheeseMmmm · 25/12/2021 23:22

Yes that's who I was thinking of.

CheeseMmmm · 25/12/2021 23:24

Just googled to see what she doing. Gone off my radar. Think there was some friction in feminists circles fair few years back. Can't remember.

Her rational wiki entry was near top.
Fuck me they don't mince their words!

What is rational wiki.
Does this sound rational? Hmm
' Brennan, in case the name isn’t met by you with immediate, horrified recognition and a shiver down your spine (as thunder claps and the horses whinny), is one of the most vocal, adamant and bitter of the transphobic wing of radical feminism.'

CheeseMmmm · 25/12/2021 23:25

Does rational mean what you want it to mean now as well 😂😂😂

WarriorN · 26/12/2021 16:22

@MattDamon

Someone posted on another thread a while back that one of the (male) Extinction Rebellion leaders would give the name 'Kate McCann' when arrested. It was used in court proceedings, which meant his real name didn't end up in the papers.

Hang on, doesn't this skew the dbs checks?

CheeseMmmm · 26/12/2021 19:11

DB checks have a v special caring way for trans people to disclose previous names.

They do have a duty to though. (In general, not sure what happens for relatively small number with GRC).

ancientgran · 26/12/2021 19:16

DBS doesn't just rely on the name, addresses, d.o.b., ideally photo ID e.g. passport or driving licence, utility bill. If there are queries they investigate, I've had two people where it ended up with them having to get fingerprinted to sort out identity, neither of them were the criminal they were suspected to be. It is a pretty thorough system.

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