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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male reporter presenting as male identifies as female & is let into changing rooms

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/12/2021 18:02

I thought given how discussions are going on some other threads it was worth pulling this out of the Zara thread

6ft bearded male presenting reporter says he identifies as female & is let into womens changing rooms.

this is what the issue is. If any man can say he is a woman & get instant access to womens spaces then that is massively open to be abused

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10300295/Bearded-6ft-reporter-let-female-changing-room-stores.html

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Rhannion · 16/12/2021 01:37

I remember the Hampstead swimming ponds situation where women said at the time that Jewish & Muslim women would be unable to use the ponds as their religion forbids them sharing spaces with men, so it follows that the same will happen with those women when it comes to changing rooms and gyms.
I also remember the ridiculous man that is the health minister in Scotland saying that refugee muslin women shouldn’t have to share their spaces with me they were unrelated to, and yet he can’t, or won’t see that no women should be expected to share our spaces with men in dresses.

Rhannion · 16/12/2021 01:38

That’s should read men not me obviously, can’t find my reading glasses again!

Artichokeleaves · 16/12/2021 08:29

@Rhannion

I remember the Hampstead swimming ponds situation where women said at the time that Jewish & Muslim women would be unable to use the ponds as their religion forbids them sharing spaces with men, so it follows that the same will happen with those women when it comes to changing rooms and gyms. I also remember the ridiculous man that is the health minister in Scotland saying that refugee muslin women shouldn’t have to share their spaces with me they were unrelated to, and yet he can’t, or won’t see that no women should be expected to share our spaces with men in dresses.
And what women said would happen did happen, in that male people now have their preferred choice in the moment of the best pool to fit themselves most sensitively and carefully respecting all aspects of them -

and female people who can't share mixed spaces cannot use the pools at all, and are excluded, many of whom have protected characteristics.

This is supposed to be not only a good thing, but progress under these politics: which is only justifiable if you think the special care of some male people outweighs the actual inclusion and access at all of female people.

Dictionary definition of male supremacism is interesting. Just saying.

MagpiePi · 16/12/2021 09:24

@Shedmistress

Well yes exactly. How do we women tell the difference

You aren't allowed to tell the difference, that is the point, You have to allow men, all men, to do whatever it is they want, and if it goes wrong, and you get hurt, its your fault for allowing yourself to be in that situation.

This ^^

If a man says he is a woman then it is the truth and women have to believe.

Apparently Hmm

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