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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Out, proud and now quite a bit nervous

106 replies

Boood · 09/12/2021 11:30

Was just walked through the “privilege wheel” in a team meeting. Was forced to ask why there was no category for biological sex and explain that gender identity is not a suitable replacement.
And now I’m throwing JKR and Maya Forstater references around like they’re going out of fashion and thinking, oh fuck.
Please hand hold, share stories and advise how I keep it grown-up and employed without caving.

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LobsterNapkin · 10/12/2021 16:53

As far as reflecting on privilege, what seems to me like a more useful exercise is what my Nana always recommended. Count your blessings, and try and remain aware of the struggles that the people you meet might have had. Most of which you won't know anything about.

DdraigGoch · 10/12/2021 17:16

@CatherinaJTV

It looks like that wheel did its job and everyone is thinking about their privileges?
But not in the way it intended.
ArabellaScott · 10/12/2021 17:47

As if the hope is that once everyone fully realises how it all works, it will all miraculously change

Awareness is all very well, but what are the tools to actually deal with sexism, racism, poverty, inequality? Those useful and logical action so often seem to be entirely absent from the discourse of privileges.

We see and are aware of privilege and oppression.

Great.

Then what?

The tacit encouragement seems to be more about encouraging people to come up with the correct internal emotional response, rather than actual concrete measures to address any of these things. As if it is all a question of feelings. As if we are to carefully identify our place and nurse that identity, use it to signal to our 'tribe'. Find the right flag, matching slogan and correct symbols.

I mean, fuck that. That's not helpful.

ArabellaScott · 10/12/2021 17:47

@LobsterNapkin

As far as reflecting on privilege, what seems to me like a more useful exercise is what my Nana always recommended. Count your blessings, and try and remain aware of the struggles that the people you meet might have had. Most of which you won't know anything about.
Absolutely.
NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/12/2021 22:48

@titchy

the most important thing to remember is that not only women experience menopause

Who else experiences menopause then? Confused Transmen clearly don't given the cocktail of drugs they take suppresses oestrogen.

Some trans men will, you won't speak for all trans men. Yes, some won't due to medication /drugs but others will as every one will be at different stages or maybe not even taking drugs. Bit simplified to say everyone's the same.
Tallwhitepine · 11/12/2021 13:46

If a transman is taking testosterone they will experience early onset menopause. Inducing menopause in 14 year olds is pretty fucked up.

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