École Polytechnique murders 32 years ago today

[Rhannion]

Today 6th December marks 32 years since 14 women were murdered in Montreal, Canada. They were shot by because they were women.

Wasn’t it in Canada where the police investigated a hate crime of a car wheel making a mark on a rainbow crossing?

@KittenKong

Wasn’t it in Canada where the police investigated a hate crime of a car wheel making a mark on a rainbow crossing?

Yup

goodsauce.news/canadian-police-investigating-crimes-against-road-rainbows/

They also think that misgendering is a human rights violation

www.google.com/amp/s/www.them.us/story/canadian-court-rules-misgendering-human-rights-violation/amp

And they have a PM who can do no wrong, despite having done blackface numerous times, at a time long after most people had recognised it as unacceptable. And this in a country where indigenous women ate murdered at horrific rates.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/07/canada-indigenous-women-and-girls-missing

What an utter fucking shambles of a country

'“Would we be here today if those women had been Indigenous? What if they were trans women? Or women who worked on the streets or had mental health or addictions issues?”

The answer is yes. This is a picture of the PEI 2020 Healing Walk with thousands attending. And I guarantee if trans women were being lined up and shot, there would be mass demonstrations. I agree that the Pickton murders in BC showed that prostituted women don't get the same response. That's a reason to DO SOMETHING about that, rather than to complain when something is done about this.

I'd also like to say the women's name as many here have:

Geneviève Bergeron
Hélène Colgan
Nathalie Croteau
Barbara Daigneault
Anne-Marie Edward
Maud Haviernick
Maryse Laganière
Maryse Leclair
Anne-Marie Lemay
Sonia Pelletier
Michèle Richard
Annie St-Arneault
Annie Turcotte
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz

The Vancouver Rape Centre are asking for donations as they expected to be targeted during this event. Glinner has published their request on his substack.

@endofthelinefinally

The Vancouver Rape Centre are asking for donations as they expected to be targeted during this event. Glinner has published their request on his substack.

They're always on my Christmas list.

Hi all,
As requested, we have now reviewed this thread and reinstated it.
We completely understand the urge to discuss matters arising from the memorial service but we'd really appreciate it if the thread could stay on topic as much as possible, as a memorial to the women who were murdered that day. Kindest thoughts to those who have experienced male violence.

Thanks Hope.

@FindTheTruth

Geneviève Bergeron, Hélène Colgan, Nathalie Croteau, Barbara Daigneault, Anne-Marie Edward, Maud Haviernick, Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz, Maryse Laganière, Maryse Leclair, Anne-Marie Lemay, Sonia Pelletier, Michèle Richard, Annie St-Arneault and Annie Turcotte

Women who had their futures ripped from them

When in many parts of the world enslavement is the lot of those who are born female, it is important that we always remember the hate and misogyny of the man who killed these 13 women who dared to challenge society's expectations for them, and be aware just how prevalent this hate for women is in our world.

So many women could have been chosen to speak in honour of the 14 women murdered because they were female why have they chosen a male to do it?

I don’t quite know what to say, horrific. Probably one of the worst things I’ve seen in the year I’ve been following this. So upsetting.

Thank you Hope at Mumsnet.

I hadn’t heard of this massacre. What those poor women must have gone through. Any memorial ceremony should be women talking about these murdered women and vawg, not a political statement.

I am shocked to the core at the statistics in the last link @ScreamingMeMe. Almost 3 indigenous women and girls go missing every week. This is an outrage. These women and girls deserve to be recognised.

“WeeBisom

So the murderer deliberately set out to kill women (he actually let the men flee), and feminists and yet the speaker is going to talk about the number of trans people killed? When this wasn't an attack on trans people? The really annoying thing about this is that there is absolutely no way whatsoever a woman would be permitted to be the only speaker on trans day of remembrance and then change the topic of conversation entirely to be about violence against women. Women don't even get to be centred in their own memorial services.”

Narcissism can be an inherent part of some peoples’ defence mechanism when they know deep down that they can never quite be what they say they are.

The speaker talked a out getting their bum groped when they were wearing a red dress, saying that they had experienced the same violence. They’ve also tweeted photos of a anime type character with a (nerf - still a gun though) rifle. Whoever asked them to speak has no idea how the victims families and those who survived must be feeling, or they just don’t think it’s relevant for ‘today’s women’.

How those at the event didn’t hit the roof I’ll never know.

Scrolling

The first class he entered he ordered the 50 men to stand on one side and the 9 women on the other. He then told the men to leave.
He was questioned as to why he was doing this and he said "he was fighting feminisim" he then shot down the line killing 6 women and injuring 3.

In total 14 women were murdered a further 10 women were injured along with 4 men.

The memorial should be about the women who were murdered and those whose lives were changed. This is not a tran issue.

The speaker talked a out getting their bum groped when they were wearing a red dress, saying that they had experienced the same violence.

It may also be worth saying that the red dress is a symbol of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls. They are hung on Red Dress Day to symbolise each woman. I don't know if the speaker is Indigenous.

That just makes it worse.

@KittenKong

That just makes it worse.

Yes it does.

@NeedsCharging
“The memorial should be about the women who were murdered and those whose lives were changed. This is not a tran issue.“

Quite. What I meant was that making that massacre of women a trans issue, the trans woman spokesperson was behaving in a narcissistic fashion.

It’s like the person (we all know one) who constantly has the voice on their head yelling ‘what about me?’ ‘How did this effect me!’ ‘Sad for you - BUT what about me?’ ‘Your mum died? But I lost an earring’.

Completely tone deaf.

Absolutely Scrolling.

Sorry I wasnt attacking your post I was agreeing with you but I am so angry about the compleat erasure of women even In death I can come across as arsey! Sorry 😊

@MrsTerryPratchett

The speaker talked a out getting their bum groped when they were wearing a red dress, saying that they had experienced the same violence.

It may also be worth saying that the red dress is a symbol of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls. They are hung on Red Dress Day to symbolise each woman. I don't know if the speaker is Indigenous.

If the speaker is the person I think they are, they have a history of owing an extremely large sum of money to an indigenous group.

And meanwhile today UN-women do what they do best...

“NeedsCharging

Absolutely Scrolling.

Sorry I wasnt attacking your post I was agreeing with you but I am so angry about the compleat erasure of women even In death I can come across as arsey! Sorry 😊”

That ‘s ok NeedsChanging, I thought I might have been unclear as I had been trying to hard to be tactful.

On another thread I had actually been reading about the co-morbidity of narcissistic personality disorder that can affect MtF trans people.