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A woman driven out of her therapy group by a trans woman's presence

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 28/11/2021 08:51

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249633/Rape-victim-forced-quit-therapy-sessions-feels-threatened-6ft-trans-woman.html

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/11/2021 10:03

X post with Kitten

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/11/2021 10:06

And the reason I suggest that it's an example of DARVO (Deny Attack Reverse Victim and Offender) is because I've seen it done by people (mostly men) who don't give a single shiny fuck about rape victims or survivors, judging by how they treat women who have asked for their views to be considered on that basis.

IamSarah · 30/11/2021 10:38

I don't think a protest is a good idea. I definitely don't want to upset or intimidate other service users.

I have been inundated with messages of support and stories from other women in my local area who have had the same problem. It's been quite overwhelming tbh.

The main bit of good news is there are 'secret' survivor groups just for women which are being run under the radar. Just a shame they have to be so secret.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/11/2021 10:40

The main bit of good news is there are 'secret' survivor groups just for women which are being run under the radar.

Yes I had heard this.

Doubletoilandtrouble · 30/11/2021 10:40

Sarah, I am in awe of you. You are amazing

hoodathunkit · 30/11/2021 11:00

The main bit of good news is there are 'secret' survivor groups just for women which are being run under the radar. Just a shame they have to be so secret.

I find this alarming.

As I described earlier in the thread the Survivors' Network has signficant connections to very dangerous networks of therapists promoting quck therapies and the idea that satanic ritual abuse is a real thing.

One of hte things I have been researching for some time is the plethora of secret surivors groups appearing all over social media. Many are promoting a dangerous mix of conspiracy theories relating to; SRA / Qanin / Pizzagate, anti-vaxxer, 5G, NWO / antisemitism, anti-UK / anti-EU, the list is endless.

Unfortunately many of these secret groups also promote "women's circles", "goddess circles", the Red Tent movement, all of which have connections to misogynist criminal networks involved in sex and labour trafficking.

Here is the person running one such secret "survivor's support group", Jeanette Archer, a vile person who has exploited many vulnerable people and radicalised them

The first video was uploaded by someone who was groomed and radicalised by Archer but who has now decided to expose her

If this video is accurate Archer has groomed vulnerable people to commit suicide.

Here is a vide of Archer encouragng her followers to engage in rioting / terrorism

For the record, Archer's claims include that she was subject to satanic ritual about by the Queen and Prince Philip who are both blood drinking, shape shifting satanic lizards.

I am not suggesting that you should not have access to a safe, women only service. You should have access to a safe women only service, of course you should.

I am simply extremely anxious that you or anyone else might fall into the clutches of one of the many, predatory, dangerous, exploitative secret survivors' groups that are currently appearing on social media, many of which are not survivors groups at all.

hoodathunkit · 30/11/2021 11:22

Jeanette Archer is a long time associate of the recently jailed child kidnapper and anti-abortionist activist Wilfred Wong, and the extremely dodgy pretend child protection activist Jon Wedger.

Interesting video about Wilfred Wong's crime and sentence here

Archer has also appeared alongside Piers Corbyn in various anti-vaxx anti-lockdown protests

One of Wong's co-conspirators Janet Stevenson was a therapist speciailising "treating surviors" (recovering false memories) of satanic ritual abuse.

CPS link
www.cps.gov.uk/cymruwales/news/six-jailed-abducting-child

OP, i am in awe of your courage for exposing the situation at the Survivors Network. I really want you and other vulnerable women to have all the help you need. I am very concerned about any woman joining secret survivors groups though.

I really wish I could help more

FWIW I am in a similar situation to you. All the local survivor and rape crisis groups I contacted for help have been taken by a mix of TRA activists, SRA conspiracy theorists and dangerous, misogynist cults

Hopefully, one day, we can all get the support me need.

hoodathunkit · 30/11/2021 11:59

A video evidencing Jeanette Archer's association with Piers Corbyn and the anti-vaxx movement

In the video are Louise Dickens (SRA conspiracy theory promoting activist, granddaughter of MP Geoffrey Dickens), possible? SRA conspiracy theory promoting grifter Samantha Browne (can't see her face but it looks like her) Jeanette Archer and Piers Corbyn

Jeanette Archer's secret survivors' group is called "Supporting SRA Survivors"

As evidenced in the video Archer promotes the idea that the "scamdemic" is really a secret satanic agenda. She has gone full on David Icke

These people should not be allowed near any vulnerable persons, let alone survivors of sexual violations. They are an extremely dangerous cult like network of malicious actors who groom and radicalise vulnerable people.

brighousepres · 30/11/2021 12:06

@hoodathunkit

WTF!

KittenKong · 30/11/2021 12:08

Bonkers.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/11/2021 12:09

Women who have been raped.

Let down by the legal, criminal and justice systems.

Let down by the public support centres.

At risk of being victimised by underground support networks.

There are days when I feel there has been no progress in some key matters since my childhood.

hoodathunkit · 30/11/2021 12:12

@PostingForTheFirstTime
Thank you so much for your WTF comment
I am in tears writing this
I have been so gaslighted when trying to expose these networks and they are truly terrifying
The other very scary thing is that some prominent feminists have become invovled with them, and thus not being gaslighted here is a huge relief

I will be late for an appointment if I don't leave now but just wanted to express my gratitude

KittenKong · 30/11/2021 12:12

I think it’s got worse. It’s fine from ‘we don’t believe you, and even if it did happen shhhhhhh’ to ‘you are hateful bigots, you deserve it, how dare you not expend every ounce of sympathy on the group of those who abuse you’. And this is our own bloody kids. We’ve got our very own little red guards.

hoodathunkit · 30/11/2021 12:14

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

It is a pincer movment

I have long been familiar with it as when I have attempted to whistleblow i have either been gaslighted, falsely diagnosed with mental illness and / ot referred to cults for support

I have to go now but will post more later

huuskymam · 30/11/2021 12:30

I certainly don't think you're in the wrong. Women need and should have safe spaces. I'm so angry about this.

Skysblue · 30/11/2021 12:52

More and more it looks like the transwoman agenda is 100% about making sure that there are no spaces where biological females can feel safe from men. They’re obsessed with toilets, rape shelters, girl guides…

No one was stopping them wearing what they like, sleeping with whom they like. No one was discriminating against them, it’s quite the other way around! If a man claims to be a transwoman he gets promoted, if a woman murmurs anything about femal sex based rights she gets fired.

Sure there have been transwomen victims of violence, but that’s a drop in the ocean when you look at the violence against women.

To me this is all about exerting male power over women. Their claim to be women is just a distraction. Actually they hate women and are deeply jealous of them.

KittenKong · 30/11/2021 15:20

Of there are no women’s places and spaces then what next?

IamSarah · 30/11/2021 16:13

I may go a bit quiet over the next few days and weeks but please don't think this has been forgotten about. I'm absolutely working on something with a brilliant team of women.

As soon as I'm able to share the details I will, I know this is important to lots of people on the thread and people are eager to be involved.

Thanks again for all the support.

AnyOldPrion · 30/11/2021 16:24

Good luck Sarah. I look forward to hearing your further plans.

Whatwouldscullydo · 30/11/2021 16:26

Good luck Sarah. We are all behind you Flowers

ArabellaScott · 30/11/2021 17:02

We'll be here when you need us, Sarah. Good luck.

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/11/2021 18:56

Jesus Christ! Women having to go underground to get support from other women when they’ve been raped.

Vulnerable women driven into hiding to get support with trauma.

Unreal.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/11/2021 19:33

@Skysblue

More and more it looks like the transwoman agenda is 100% about making sure that there are no spaces where biological females can feel safe from men. They’re obsessed with toilets, rape shelters, girl guides…

No one was stopping them wearing what they like, sleeping with whom they like. No one was discriminating against them, it’s quite the other way around! If a man claims to be a transwoman he gets promoted, if a woman murmurs anything about femal sex based rights she gets fired.

Sure there have been transwomen victims of violence, but that’s a drop in the ocean when you look at the violence against women.

To me this is all about exerting male power over women. Their claim to be women is just a distraction. Actually they hate women and are deeply jealous of them.

This is exactly it. They had everything, as much as anybody has. All the same rights that anyone else has, freedom to express themselves as they wish and laws to protect them in their lifestyle. But it isn't enough -- they have to take what we have away from us.

It seems they want to erase women, so they can be the only women. Nothing will ever satisfy them, they will always keep pushing for more.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 30/11/2021 22:44

IamSarah thank you for your courage FlowersWineCake

My shovel is polished and ready to dig, just need to know where the allotment is.

As PPs have said, it is unbelievable and outrageous, that women are having to hide in order to support each other.

This really needs to be blown apart.

Wishing you the very best of luck and sending another hug.

IamSarah · 01/12/2021 16:32

Unsurprisingly my rape crisis service is 'no debate' and women who have been raped asking for a single sex group is 'hate' and 'abuse'.

God I'm tired.

A woman driven out of her therapy group by a trans woman's presence