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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A woman driven out of her therapy group by a trans woman's presence

305 replies

PostingForTheFirstTime · 28/11/2021 08:51

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249633/Rape-victim-forced-quit-therapy-sessions-feels-threatened-6ft-trans-woman.html

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Soubriquet · 28/11/2021 08:55

Poor Sarah

“Once the transwoman joined, it was no longer about their experiences or male entitlement, but about making the transwoman feel comfortable and safe instead”

Completely irrelevant to what the the group is supposed to be for

Disgusting. Glad to see the comments are supporting Sarah

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 28/11/2021 09:00

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DinoDinner · 28/11/2021 09:04

I cried when I read that article. Women are so fucked.

How can anyone woke or not, see how bloody wrong this is??

I won't give my opinions on why the 6ft person may have wanted to be there and hear the stories, as I'd get deleted.

Fuck "Be Kind"!

AnkleDeep · 28/11/2021 09:06

Just awful.

Deliriumoftheendless · 28/11/2021 09:10

Sarah- I’m sure you will see these comments, you have been very brave speaking out about this.

I’m sorry this has happened to you.

drinkingwineoutofamug · 28/11/2021 09:12

There's an article by Julie bindle as well today , echoing what Sarah has said and about her trip to Vancouver. Awful

ArabellaScott · 28/11/2021 09:12

Flowers to Sarah and all women impacted by this madness.

IamSarah · 28/11/2021 09:16

Hi OP, thanks for sharing this. I am Sarah from the article. I'm a regular on here but NC for this as nervous about backlash from trans activists.

Happy to answer any questions, particularly from anyone who thinks I'm in the wrong or being hateful.

WalkOnGildedSplinters · 28/11/2021 09:17

Sarah said there was no outward physical sign that the new member was transitioning to become a woman and the recruit did not volunteer any comment about any sexual abuse that she may have suffered.

'I've no idea why she was there,' Sarah added. 'My paranoid side makes me think they were there for voyeuristic reasons. My rational side thinks they were probably there because they need help.'

I don’t think you’re paranoid, I think you’re right.

ArabellaScott · 28/11/2021 09:18

a statement from the organisation:

survivorsnetwork.org.uk/trans-inclusion-statement-2021/

Makes absolutely no mention of women at all. But is careful to tell us all about transwomen.

' 2011, we have actively & publicly welcomed trans women into our women’s services, and people of all genders into our other services.

We are a feminist organisation and we support survivors of all genders. Survivors of trauma & sexual violence, irrespective of gender identity, need support, care and belief. With 30 years of expert knowledge we are well equipped to offer this in a safe, survivor-led and empowerment-based way.

Trans-inclusive feminism is key to our values and central to our services as a Rape Crisis Centre. Nearly 1 in 5 trans people have experienced sexual assault or the threat of sexual assault (Galop) and we are committed to supporting our trans siblings in their survival journey.'

How many women have experienced the same?

Why are women absent from your statement, survivors network?

ChampagneCommunist · 28/11/2021 09:18

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TheBeardedVulture · 28/11/2021 09:19

Flowers for you Sarah.

If it’s any consolation, there are plenty of GC women in Brighton you could link in with if it helps- the Brighton Resisters in particular.

30whatacrock · 28/11/2021 09:20

@IamSarah

Hi OP, thanks for sharing this. I am Sarah from the article. I'm a regular on here but NC for this as nervous about backlash from trans activists.

Happy to answer any questions, particularly from anyone who thinks I'm in the wrong or being hateful.

I posted about this too. I don’t see how anyone could think you were wrong Sarah. I’m sorry for what you’ve endured in your life and also for what happened at the support group. It’s shocking.

Did the man not at anything at all, introduce himself or anything.

ArabellaScott · 28/11/2021 09:20

To be honest, it doesn't matter what the transwoman's reasons are for being there. What matters are the women in the women's group. Women are entitled to want a woman only group, a single sex space. It's really not much to ask.

IamSarah · 28/11/2021 09:23

I don't really use Twitter and I know the article is the Fail but I want to keep speaking up so people are aware of what is happening to women in my situation. Please can people share the link, especially with high profile feminists or GC journalists who may want to write about it. Thanks.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/11/2021 09:23

‘2011 we have actively and publicly welcomed men into our woman’s services’

I’m
So sorry Sarah

ArabellaScott · 28/11/2021 09:25

Sarah, thank you for bringing this further into the light. I appreciate this must be difficult and I hugely admire your courage in doing so. You have my full support and so many women are behind you.

EishetChayil · 28/11/2021 09:26

Why isn't stonewall using its influence and money to create specific support groups for trans people who are victims of abuse? That's what I'd like to know.

MrsWooster · 28/11/2021 09:27

I’m sorry, Sarah, that the support you needed and sought was taken from you.
You’re not hateful or wrong; you are brave for speaking up and hopefully your painful experience will result in proper changes so that women are offered the spaces to which we are legally and morally entitled.

Rightsraptor · 28/11/2021 09:27

I was sickened reading that article, just Imagining being in your shoes, Sarah, and how you must have felt. Such a betrayal.

JB says in her article that trans people were offered help to set up their own refuges but declined. Isn't that interesting?

Yes, voyeurism could certainly be the motivation for males behaving like this, and another possibility is control. When such males are present they control the narrative - you won't be able to express what you need to.

I'd have zero faith in any "women's" organisations that can't see this. Or facilitate it.

ArabellaScott · 28/11/2021 09:28

@EishetChayil

Why isn't stonewall using its influence and money to create specific support groups for trans people who are victims of abuse? That's what I'd like to know.
This organisation does apparently have a group for trans people. This transwoman specifically chose to attend the women's group.
Q1w2e3 · 28/11/2021 09:34

You are so very brave, Sarah. I am sorry that this source of support has been lost to you. Wishing you strength and peace.

Flapjak · 28/11/2021 09:35

Sorry this has happened to you Sarah. Its probably they are getting funding on being trans inclusive' which is why they operating this agenda. I think women are going to need to start again and set up their own support groups which are strictly based on biological sex. I strughle to understand how feminist women think that having a male in a group of women who have experienced rape and abuse is not going to make women feel unsafe and uncomfortable. How do they know that males wont infiltrate the group purely to feed of womens trauma, after all no one can see whats in someones mind, a bit like gender identity.

HereticFanjo · 28/11/2021 09:35

I'm so sorry you had this experience Sarah. Thank you for speaking up about it. I hope you find the support you need.

Shame on this charity. Shame on them.

terfinginthevoid · 28/11/2021 09:39

Flowers I’m so sorry this happened to you Sarah. I hope you have found support.

I’m heartened by the comments and the numbers of likes - the utter insanity underlying ‘trans inclusion’ is obvious to most people when they realise what is actually happening.