Helen Joyce in conversation with Liberal Voice for Women

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDRFsm9UPTE

Helen talking to a women’s group within the Lib Dems. Good to see there is still some sanity and fightback in the Lib Dems, I thought the speaker from the group was great.

Interestingly she mentions that some MPs didn’t receive their copy of Trans from the Sex Matters campaign Sounds like their staff screening again? Fortunately she says now MPs know they were supposed to receive it they are looking into it or Helen has provided copies.

Listening - good as always

10:43 minutes in "it's an ideology but it's thought of as being a human right"

Such clarity. This is good.

If you want to do a quick YouTube transcript copy-paste, there is a toggle button to turn off the timestamps.

Thanks for sharing. I find her really interesting to listen to.

OOH thanks Necessary!!

Just to say that I'm a member of the group and we are a group of Lib Dems trying to push back against the party on these issues. We have male and female Lib Dems amongst our members but it's women-led.

We have regular events with high profile speakers on topics that affect women.

This is us:

liberalvoiceforwomen.org/about

What an extraordinarily impressive woman Helen Joyce is.

Thanks for that Jules it sounds an interesting group. Helen is always brilliant to listen to.

"Teenage girls are being sterilised to hide men's erotic motivations"

Helen is so clear and unequivocal.

Thanks Jules. I'm a former member of the Lib Dems, I don't feel able to be a member or to vote Lib Dem at the moment due to the party's general stance on this but really appreciate the work you are doing to try and influence policy.

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"Teenage girls are being sterilised to hide men's erotic motivations"

Helen is so clear and unequivocal.

The full horror of what is happening to hundreds of thousands, probably millions, of girls and young women globally. Plus they are queuing up to pay to have their breasts amputated. The phenomenal sums being paid out by Medical Insurance companies in the USA to enable this madness is staggering.

The financial benefits to all of the individuals, NGOs and commercial companies are helping to keep the trans train on track and ploughing forward relentlessly.

Helen Joyce is right though about what set this all in motion.

The “spin offs” illustrate it so well, like the surgeon who removes the wombs of these poor young women, doing research into womb-transplants into males to satisfy specific types of fetishisation of the female body and its functions.

(Hope I am being careful enough with my words here. Nerve-wracking having to beat around the bush to avoid the ban hammer without descending into complete gibberish!

This is such a good interview - even if you have heard Helen before, listen to this one too, she says loads more.

She also goes more into what we can do, what parents can do, and how to discuss this with the Other Side (or how not to).

Likewise, @Bosky, I was really careful with my post too, to avoid the dreadful Sword of Deletion. Tricky.

Thanks for this. I think Helen is the best speaker - she is so clear and analytical. I shall listen later.

I watched this today, thanks for drawing my attention to it.

Lots of good points, but I did like the observation that transwomen are celebrated for achieving in different spheres (sports, business, etc) meanwhile transmen are celebrated for... having babies.

It is just so crystal clear that sexism is based on sex and not gender.

I watched this! I really liked what Helen was saying about croney beliefs. There's a huge herd mentality especially among many at the lower end of politics. And when you believe something because your friend does, and not because you understand it or believe in the principles, it leads to more polarisation. Everyone is stuck in a box, on one side or the other. No space for nuance.

women who have stuck around in the lib dems may have to deal with beardy bros like this one telling feminists protesting the lush binders to mind their own business
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Helen Joyce is fabulous.