What are your views on drag?

[Ladyday1995]

I never really started thinking about this until the other day. But honestly I personally can't stand it. It's so completely insulting to women, it's an ugly caricature based on strange men's ill informed ideas about femininity. Everything about it is so gross, the cattiness, bizarre sexual overtones, the disgusting makeup and clothing. I just cant understand things like "drag queen story time". They've done that at my local museum much to my horror.

The live acts I've seen are generally vulgar, unfunny and misogynistic. Since childhood I've put them in the same category as clowns - creepy. And yes, I'm including Danny La Rue, Mrs Brown and Dame Edna here.

Back in the day when I was a kid lily savage used to be quite funny, now as an adult it pisses me right off and i don't find it funny, it's all a bit cringe isn't it.

@Ladyday1995

I never really started thinking about this until the other day. But honestly I personally can't stand it. It's so completely insulting to women, it's an ugly caricature based on strange men's ill informed ideas about femininity. Everything about it is so gross, the cattiness, bizarre sexual overtones, the disgusting makeup and clothing. I just cant understand things like "drag queen story time". They've done that at my local museum much to my horror.

Yep. All of this.

Hate it.

Womanface. Hate it.

Incredibly offensive.

I personally don’t think it’s in the same category as blackface so long as it’s not crass. In the acting world, it’s not uncommon for people play characters of the opposite sex, as well as playing older characters etc. I don’t find it distasteful to do that.

I just don’t find drag funny or entertaining. I find it simplistic and boring.

I also think the men doing it get a big kick out of it, like a kink. This might be a reason why some men enjoy watching it.

I used to love it but as I'm becoming more aware of what it actually signifies, I'm becoming more and more offended by it. I'm even more offended by the way in which women like me are silenced over having such opinions.

It is womanface.

It is performed by people who, judging by the material they use, at best hold women in deep contempt if they don't outright despise them.

Trying to train women to think it's normal is perverse & as wrong as many of the outdated oddities that used to be on tv back in the 70s.
It should be consigned to the bin like The Black & White minstrel show, Jimmy Saville et al.

I don't like it - it looks grotesque and it's insulting to women.

No views. People can wear what they like. It's all done tongue in cheek in the gay scene panto style anyway if you like that then gone if you don't avoid drag bars. Don't understand why anyone needs to have an opinion really

@maddy68

No views. People can wear what they like. It's all done tongue in cheek in the gay scene panto style anyway if you like that then gone if you don't avoid drag bars. Don't understand why anyone needs to have an opinion really

Yeah, jokes about how disgusting women and their vaginas are is just 'tongue in cheek' stuff.

Relax ladies, why you got opinions on this stuff???

Would a show be aired on TV with women pretending to be men called cheesy dick and greasy balls, who have fake penis appendages that they girate to the camera to show they have better specimens then real men?

Perhaps inappropriate and sexist to mock a whole category of sex?

@maddy68

No views. People can wear what they like. It's all done tongue in cheek in the gay scene panto style anyway if you like that then gone if you don't avoid drag bars. Don't understand why anyone needs to have an opinion really

Errr it's on the BBC and in local libraries too.

Should the people who protested against Roy Chubby Brown performing in Sheffield just not have had an opinion too?

Perhaps the person who dressed up as a rainbow monkey with a willy bouncing about to entertain children in a library a few weeks ago should have been ignored as it's all harmless fun...women can just be ignored and children now insignificant.

It's all men, men and men first!

@Enough4me

Would a show be aired on TV with women pretending to be men called cheesy dick and greasy balls, who have fake penis appendages that they girate to the camera to show they have better specimens then real men?

Perhaps inappropriate and sexist to mock a whole category of sex?

Quite.

Hate drag.

And it’s completely inappropriate for children.

@Enough4me

Would a show be aired on TV with women pretending to be men called cheesy dick and greasy balls, who have fake penis appendages that they girate to the camera to show they have better specimens then real men?

Perhaps inappropriate and sexist to mock a whole category of sex?

No that absolutely wouldn't. I do wonder why drag kings fell so completely by the wayside. There was a time when they too were a part of popular entertainment. If you ever watch Babylon Berlin, set in the Weimar Republic there is a drag king character Nikoros who is the headline act of the cabaret nightclub the characters all attend. And who's song is also the series theme. Babylon Berlin was created specifically to give a strong feeling for the latter years of the republic which was famous for it's cabaret and they chose to make the performer of their depiction of Berlin, a drag king.

I guess it has a lot to do with women gaining freedom to wear suits, jeans, shirts, have short hair, etc? A woman in a pants suit is normal. Whereas a man in a dress is still outside the norms.

Live and let live. If it's not your bag, move on. If people want to dress in drag then they should be able to imo.

@GotTheTshirtx1000 of course they're allowed to. They're men and can do as they please, women...well women are just an idea in a man's head.

Women aren't just an idea in a man's head... Women are strong, women can do as they please (within the the law) women can dress as men and no one bats an eyelid.

Women cannot even be heard when they say
"no, thankyou".

It's not about the clothes! I don't care what anybody wears and I doubt anyone on this board does.It's everything else:

The slang which is often derogatory about women's genitals ("fishy", "serving cunt")
The overtly sexualised, "slutty" personas
The names: again often derogatory towards women: Anna Bortion, Cheryl Hole, etc

It's not about the clothes, it's about the misogyny

Harry Styles experimenting with his image and wearing "women's" clothes? - Great, good for him.

Harry Styles experimenting with his image and wearing "women's" clothes, calling himself Harry Pussy and talking about how slutty "she" is? - No thank you.*

(*Just to be clear, he hasn't actually done this!)

"Live and let live. If it's not your bag, move on. If people want to dress in drag then they should be able to imo."

Is what they said about blackface. Which I am old enough to remember on TV as a kid - the Black and White Minstrel Show.
"Just a bit of harmless fun "