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There has been an 80% increase in sexual abuse by women over the past few years. Apparently.

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Bellaisoneluckywoman · 03/11/2021 21:32

Wondering if anyone else heard/remembers a File on Four episode from Jan this year, which claimed that there had been more than an 80% increase in sexual abuse perpetrated by women over the past few years.

An absolutely staggering statistic, I think you'll agree. I was so shocked I wrote to File on Four, Feedback and Woman's Hour about it. No reply from Feedback or WH - and a very curt, bordering on hostile reply from File on Four not answering my Q and implying that I was transphobic for even asking the Q. Here is the email I sent them:

Dear File on Four Team,

I was extremely shocked by last night’s episode of File on Four in which it was claimed that sexual abuse perpetrated by women had risen by 80% over the past few years.

It does seem a sudden and unexpected trend development so I wanted to dig a little further and try to understand what is going on.

Please could you let me know whether or not your definition of women includes trans women and/or men who have self ID’d as women. If so - are you able to strip out those individuals and look at the statistics just for natal women?

I stress that I am not being transphobic, I just want to grasp what these statistics are telling us.

I think it is vital that statistics are accurate and do not mislead - so am very much hoping you can clear this up for me.

Kind regards,

Following the Nolan Investigates exposure of the Stonewall issue and today's interview with Prof. Kathleen Stock on WH, I've written to WH again to see if they'd like to dig into this.

Data are utterly meaningless if we don't understand what they show/say. Anyone else fancy joining me in urging WH to look at what is behind this statistic? Or indeed in pushing the makers of the original programme to explain their own data set? I'm hoping that there might be a chink of light post the Nolan podcast. Perhaps I'm deluded, but I"m not giving up....

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 04/11/2021 14:06

The EHRC annotated the draft saying this was an offensive example that suggested trans women were sex offenders

So we have to pretend there are no transwomen sex offenders in case it hurts someone's feelings. Absurd.

So is there an increase in sex offences committed by transwomen or there is an increase in men who are not trans claiming to be trans once they get caught? Because we all know it won't be females. Who knows with self ID 'I am whatever I say I am' bollocks.

Either way it proves we need single sex spaces more than ever. Because opening up female spaces to penis people is already proven to be a fucking stupid idea.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 04/11/2021 14:14

MBM has started its own thread about their report and the EHRC:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4392826-EHRC-influence-over-ScotGovs-guidance-on-collection-of-data-on-sex

Artichokeleaves · 04/11/2021 18:52

Since they've changed women to mean people of both sexes, this data is now totally worthless and there's no point in reporting on it. It shows nothing, it demonstrates nothing, it's actively misleading, it cannot be used as a basis for anything at all and it's a waste of public purse and time now in bothering to collect it.

Which is exactly what was predicted.

Bellaisoneluckywoman · 05/11/2021 20:59

On the subject of data becoming utterly meaningless, I see David Lammy has tweeted about how disgraceful it is (and it IS) that there are only 23 senior black lawyers in England and Wales.

I wonder how he would would feel if a number of white lawyers opted to identify as being black - thereby boosting that number significantly so that the problem appeared to disappear.

twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1456565642962812940?s=20

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NiceGerbil · 05/11/2021 21:13

Some official body said that-

It was wrong to consider that massive increase in women committing sex offences could be down to self ID.
Because implies anyone who declares female ID to police could be male as that implies TW can be sex offenders. (Ignores that people can lie about ID)...

Therefore they are saying that based on wanting to protect one group for ideology based reasons,

It must be accepted that female people ARE committing sex offences at a much higher rate.

So they're ok with insisting that women are sex offenders way more than previously.

Right that needs looking into as v worrying numbers increasing.

Look into it how though?

NiceGerbil · 05/11/2021 21:18

The responses to that DL thread are predictable.

Wanting special treatment for black people etc etc.

This is the problem I suppose. If you accept trans people are v oppressed and you know only too well the pushback of trying to do anything around minority representation. Then any pushback re trans gets put in that category.

It's a rubbish reaction but I suppose I get it.

Generally. For DL that rights hoarding shit. Nah. No leeway misognist.

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