Wonderful rant by Julie Burchill

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10148267/JULIE-BURCHILL-Suffragettes-make-M-S-selling-hijabs-four-year-old-girls.html

Yes, I know it's the Mail on Sunday.....

Love Julie

As an aside that yellow dress Gwyneth is wearing makes her look like a toilet roll doll.

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Bit of an aside but it's always a pleasure to see Emma Watson proving what a vacuous airhead she is. That photograph of her is a hoot.

I got sidetracked into finding its provenance which led me down an alternative path leading to this idiotic utterance from Watson.

“I’ve always had this huge problem. I would love to wear garments that are ethically sourced, but there aren’t enough options for me to be able to do that realistically.”

How stupid is this woman? The problem of being able to source clothes which are ethically sourced is an enormous problem but it decreases as one's income increases. I have sufficient disposable income to be able to afford to buy ethically sourced products ; Watson has it by the cargo container load.

I'm definitely getting that book.

What she means is that she couldn't get what she like to wear

Showing where her priorities are

Sorry off topic

Julie Burchill has done some dodgy things though- I remember reading that she cyberbullied Ash Sarkar and encouraged others to join in- I need to check. And does seem to have a strange attitude towards Jewish people, and made rather an off-colour joke that Harry and Meghan's baby should have been called Georgina Floydina

Weird that she is going along with “sex assigned at birth” wokery. Why do so many people not question the sheer madness of this.
Unless my definition of the very To Assign is very different than everyone else’s.
Let’s assign the next 5 babies born at this hospital as male, since we assigned quite a few as female yesterday.
I cannot get my head around this.

@WillyWollyWandy

Weird that she is going along with “sex assigned at birth” wokery. Why do so many people not question the sheer madness of this. Unless my definition of the very To Assign is very different than everyone else’s. Let’s assign the next 5 babies born at this hospital as male, since we assigned quite a few as female yesterday. I cannot get my head around this.

She's not 'going along with it'. She's just quoting the Trans Ideology definition: 'Cis' (a person whose gender identity is the same as their sex assigned at birth).

@WillyWollyWandy she’s taking the piss that’s all. She’s not going along with it.

That article made me guffaw with laughter. Are the adults finally waking up?!

”It's bad enough that these half-witted Wokers have access to computers, but when one considers that many of them work in publishing, it's like finding out that Johnny Depp runs a women's refuge.”

”Did the long and splendid story that began with the invention of the printing press around 1436 really have to end up here? With publishing employees – who would seemingly be happier burning books than editing them – crying because they didn't like the words?”

”We really are in the midst of the Woke Trials now, being whirled into a dizzying danse macabre in which we have no idea where we'll end up. And, amid the stupidity of these witch-hunts, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

”I never foresaw that I would be living through such an age of barbarism and hysteria“

Neither did I, Julie!

Hope she’s right that it’s finally on the wane.

As Sex Pistol John Lydon put it: 'I never thought I'd see the day when the Right would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the Establishment and the Left become the snivelling self-righteous ones going around shaming everybody.'

I grew up being told 'You can't say that!' by bourgeois people older than me: as a sexagenarian, little has changed except the fact that the bourgeois bed-wetters are now younger than me.

Woke is the revenge of the dullard on the wit, the curtain-twitcher on the hedonist, the wallflower on the whirling dancer. I may be sacked, but no sackcloth and ashes for me. I'm looking forward to a gorgeous summer in Brighton, writing for anyone who'll have me.

We were the hedonists and the rule breakers!!!! Now we are told to SHUT UP

It’s amazing that this thread cheers on Burchill, who was forced by the courts to apologize for her vile bullying of Sarkar, while knocking Watson for wanting ethically sourced clothes. That the latter is what’s seen as worthy of condemnation really says something.

It’s amazing that this thread cheers on Burchill, who was forced by the courts to apologize for her vile bullying of Sarkar,

This isn't technically true. I don't think the courts ever got involved - a deal was done between Burchill's and Sarkar's lawyers. Burchill was suitably contrite about it.

I think most of us who know anything about Julie Burchill find some of her views unpalatable. She believes in capital punishment, for a start.

Still, she is very funny on this issue and very astute.

As Sex Pistol John Lydon put it: 'I never thought I'd see the day when the Right would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the Establishment and the Left become the snivelling self-righteous ones going around shaming everybody.'

I don't really get this point as the Sex Pistols released their best known anarchic hits e.g. 'God Save the Queen, the fascist regime' when there was a Labour Government in power...in 1977...

If “giving the middle finger to the establishment” means bullying brown women and being “woke” means thinking that’s not good, actually, I’ll take woke. Like, it isn’t actually cool and hedonistic that the things she wants to say and that others object to are frequently awful, racist things. That’s not counter-culture, it’s been the dominant culture for hundreds of years.

Point taken about the court, my mistake.

@HazelCarbyFan

It’s amazing that this thread cheers on Burchill, who was forced by the courts to apologize for her vile bullying of Sarkar, while knocking Watson for wanting ethically sourced clothes. That the latter is what’s seen as worthy of condemnation really says something.

You have missed the point about Watson. She said she would like to wear them but as there isn't much choice, she dismisses it and wears what she likes. So she does fuck all. And if you can't see this as her pathetic attempt to stave off criticism for wearing unethical clothing then more fool you.

And you don't like people siding with Burchill despite some questionable views. Need I remind you, hypocrite, that Watson couldn't wait to kick Rowling when she was suffering and join in the abuse....the woman who made her what she is.

JB's being doing this ever since she started writing for the NME. She'll say something really odious and you write her off, and then she'll go and say something that makes you stop and think, 'Shit, that's bang on the money'. And isn't that the point - that 'nice' people can still get some things horribly wrong and vice versa, and that it's dangerous to believe otherwise?

I wonder what the actual book will be like.

I am a fan of the way she has stored up all of these grudges to construct a grudge narrative rather than blowing her top on each, one at a time.

Also, her argument reminds me a bit of Nancy Fraser who wrote in the New Left Review - although she was a lot more sanguine- she was talking about different forms of activism and how they can easily cancel each other out.

It was Ash's religion Julie was critical of, and she paid up cash to Ash rather than have the legal hassle. Unsurprisingly.

I don't personally think criticism of religious historical characters is awful racism, but it seems to be flung in that bucket for additional vilification when there's a perfectly serviceable protected characteristic of religious beliefs that could be used.

Calling it racism is like saying criticism of Catholic leaders is racist irrespective of the race of the leader.

wild, but the question is, would she have bullied a white woman the same way?

Julie takes a pop at anyone she considers hypocritical.

@beatrice14

wild, but the question is, would she have bullied a white woman the same way?

Having followed Julie Burchill's career for something like 40 years, oh yes I think so.

Oh my, that really is a rant!

It’s amazing that this thread cheers on Burchill, who was forced by the courts to apologize for her vile bullying of Sarkar, while knocking Watson for wanting ethically sourced clothes. That the latter is what’s seen as worthy of condemnation really says something

You have completely missed the point here.

Ethically produced clothing is available if you have the money to pay for it. It is complete nonsense for Watson to say

I’ve always had this huge problem. I would love to wear garments that are ethically sourced, but there aren’t enough options for me to be able to do that realistically

Like Watson I want clothes and products which are ethically source. To that end I probably spend far more on individual items of clothing than the average MNETTER probably does. I don't buy clothes supermarkets or the high street and almost everything is made in the UK, France or the Netherlands. I don't have a fraction of Watson's wealth but the vast majority of my clothes are ethically sourced.

I was criticising Watson's vacuous virtue- signalling- not her wish to buy ethically sourced products.

Julie Burchill is little more than a slightly ( but only very slightly) better educated version of katie hopkins. Racist, a bully and - crucially - she'll say anything to be controversial. She abandoned her own children and is hugely Islamophobic. She has recently morphed into a champion for the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory. She gets worse as time passes. Please do not defend her or champion her views. She just makes them up according to her whim.