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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First female Four-Star Admiral appointed in US Public Health Service

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ItsRainingProstateOwners · 20/10/2021 15:57

Admiral Rachel Levine is described as first openly transgender Four-Star Officer. No problem. But first female Four-Star Admiral?

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OvaHere · 20/10/2021 16:04

The tweets on this were getting utterly ratioed last time I looked. Especially the one by the Surgeon General.

It completely undermines the federal government to lie like this especially as they need people to take their advice on other matters. Trust the science expect when we are pretending male people are female to suit our political ideology.

This is no better than any of the whoppers told by the Trump Administration.

All the above is without even touching on the blatant misogyny and erasure of women and language.

OvaHere · 20/10/2021 16:04

*except

JurassickJay · 20/10/2021 16:06

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terryleather · 20/10/2021 16:09

This is the very definition of fake news.

EishetChayil · 20/10/2021 16:10

So brave. So stunning.

Envy
RoyalCorgi · 20/10/2021 16:17

She is the very model of a modern four-star admiral.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/10/2021 16:18

@ItsRainingProstateOwners

Admiral Rachel Levine is described as first openly transgender Four-Star Officer. No problem. But first female Four-Star Admiral?
So... either the admiral is a transman with a 'feminine' name, or else one of those 'firsts' is false.
Artichokeleaves · 20/10/2021 16:19

Levine is either a transwoman or a female. Levine cannot be both.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 20/10/2021 16:21

Levine is the first to be both.

OhHolyJesus · 20/10/2021 16:22

Made me think of this, sorry it's long 😆

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I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From marathon to Waterloo in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations both the simple and quadratical
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
Wth many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I am very good at integral and differential calculus
I know the scientific names of beings animalculus
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
I am the very model of a modern major general
All: In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern major general
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's;
I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies,
I know the croaking from the Frogs of Aristophanes!
Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore,
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Babylonic cuneiform,
And tell you ev'ry detail of Caractacus's uniform:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
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He is the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin",
When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin,
When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at,
And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat",
When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery,
When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery--
In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy,
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury,
Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century;
But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
He is the very model of a modern Major-General

Helleofabore · 20/10/2021 16:32

If those pushing this do not realize how offensive this is, then there is little hope for them to understand women’s needs and the discrimination they face.

Be honest and state ‘first trans four star’ and be proud of it. Acknowledge that this person has had their own unique discrimination in their life, but their reality is so different to women in the military.

To promote this like it is a win for any female is fuckery. Yay! Women have achieved respect and equality in the military…. Oh… this woman started their career as a male …. And only transitioned as a mature male… so really nothing to celebrate for women at all then. But yay! The government told me so, and we have to trust them don’t we?

And this is supposed to be the person the public expect to trust to have integrity and not lie to them.

Claiming this is the first female four star? The fucking idiots.

Artichokeleaves · 20/10/2021 16:34

@AlfonsoTheDinosaur

Levine is the first to be both.
Yeah, no.

At that point any remaining, lingering good will goes clang. That's plain silly.

JurassickJay · 20/10/2021 16:42

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NonnyMouse1337 · 20/10/2021 17:01

The word female is doing a lot of heavy lifting there......

aloris · 20/10/2021 17:02

Well I think it just confirms that women will not be allowed to have a word to refer to ourselves. It was one thing to declare that males could be women (and that was bad enough), but to declare that transwomen are female is to make meaningless the sole remaining word that defined female people as people (rather than as collections of body parts).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/10/2021 17:13

TRAs will see just how far they can get. They're not going to be satisfied. Ever.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 20/10/2021 17:23

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LadyNotGivingaF · 20/10/2021 18:10

This is a warning sign to me that the source/health authority is more than willing to ignore basic, obvious facts. How exactly do they expect people to "trust the science" when it comes to Covid,climate change, etc when reality can be so easily bent.

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MassiveHoard · 20/10/2021 18:25

Flipping heck Jesus that is long. BravoGrin

MassiveHoard · 20/10/2021 18:27

Yes, I agree with PP about the word female, it's soul destroying that we don't now have a word to describe our sex, other than to refer to body parts Confused

JellySaurus · 20/10/2021 18:28

I wonder when this Admiral transitioned? Was it before or after [pronoun] had climbed the slippery slope to flag officer?

MarshmallowSwede · 20/10/2021 18:33

Calculating age.. admiral has been a woman for about 15% of their adult life.

There were no women who have been women 100% of their adult life I guess.

So stunning and brave!

Fetarabbit · 20/10/2021 18:40

Be honest and state ‘first trans four star’ and be proud of it. Acknowledge that this person has had their own unique discrimination in their life

Yes yes yes! Exactly this. Why not be pushing for people to take pride in being trans and seek support for the unique challenges that presents. Oh, because it's all about validation, ego, and bulldozing into others spaces and taking their achievements.