This has really upset me

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Sorry I don't normally post on this board so hope it's the right place, but this upsets me so much. I am a mother and proud to be called a mother / mum I feel like everything about being female is being stripped away piece by piece where the voice of the few is so loud now that the voice of the many is ignored
Scotland's civil service deleted 'MOTHER' from maternity policy mol.im/a/10103811 via dailym.ai/android

It's despicable, OP, what the Scottish government did and how they did it. You're not alone.

I know OP, it’s horrible isn’t it?

In glad I had my pregnancies before it became forbidden to say I was becoming a mother.

I really wonder why the people promoting this hate their mother so much that they don't want any one else to mention it at work.

They are not the only one. Many other Stonewall Champions - including Ofcom -have proudly removed the words ‘women’ and ‘mother’ from their policies.

It is great that Nolan is now exposing to a wider audience how so many grand institutions have just blindly done whatever Stonewall have asked them to do, without pausing to question. Heads should roll.

Women won’t wheest. Mothers won’t mute.

Shame on them all for trying to erase us, mothers or not, to appease Stonewall, et al.

This is not the path to inclusion. There are better ways.

No to Stonewall.

What are you doing? Women become mothers.

Just take your fanatic rubbish and put it in the bin where it belongs.

Mother.

Get over it.

Women won’t wheest. Mothers won’t mute

Yes.

I'm not surprised you're upset OP, I would be too if I was in Scotland. Can you write to you MSP? I find channelling my emotions into activism, however mild or from my armchair, helps a bit.

Thanks for the replies , like I said in my op I don't normally post on her but that today was the final straw ,it just feels like 1 thing after another being stripped away gender neutral toilets removing what I consider a safe space , chest feeding instead of breastfeeding birthing person instead of pregnant woman , people who menstruate the list goes on . I have a daughter and I want her to be able to grow up and say she's a woman and 1 day she may decide to have a child and become a mother and breastfeed her child it's incredibly upsetting that it's all being stripped away .

Women's rights are being stripped away right under our noses. It's frightening to see how easy it is.

Stick around OP, lots of us feel the same. There are some tentative signs of the message getting through to where it needs to - partly because more and more people like you are saying 'enough now'.

Stay strong OP, use this to fuel you further, take action, any action, however small and hold on tight.

We're just getting started and not letting go.

Current Consultations open to complete:

Removal of definition of women to men only females

www.fca.org.uk/publication/consultation/cp21-24.pdf

Safety of women and girls

www.westlothian.gov.uk/safety-of-women

Consultation in Wales but you don't have to be a resident to complete it

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You're right OP. It is awful. We are women. Not and assemblage of disconnected parts and functions.

Yes, it's depressing to be referred to as a birthing person or any of the other new terminology. I think what bothers me most is the subtle way it is erasing society's acceptance of the special connection between mothers and their children that allows us to protect our children from the people in the outside world who want to take advantage of them or use them for political purposes.

Of course you're upset. Next you'll be angry. Then you'll say no, feck off.

We've all been there.

It's an overwhelming topic. The Nolan podcast is great but there is so much more.

Read 'Trans' by Helen Joyce, it's a great overview.

Say no.

Also, read this beautiful thread about a mother and daughter

mobile.twitter.com/HanoverHussy/status/1450077050467983360

I spoke to my mum about this for the first time today. She was surprisingly up on the debate (obviously not completely but she read the times over the weekend as a friend of theirs left it - and also they get the telegraph - not because they are Tory but because my dad likes the sport )

Anyway she said to me @Blessex (her daughter obviously). My friend x’s granddaughter is upset because she is having to share a swimming changing room with a boy who has decided ‘he’ is a ‘she’. Her friends granddaughter is age 8. And this is in the middle of nowhere in the U.K. Not London. Not a big city. A small town in the middle of nowhere.

This was the first conversation we have had on this and I spent one hour telling her the rest.

Her response - @Blessex - be careful out there on social media.

This is getting bigger and bigger.

Yes. Only a tiny minority’s identity matters now.

It’s sinister as all hell.

Write to your MP. Express your disgust. The more noise we make the better.

Thank you for posting OP. I've spent the evening reading more and I'm so angry. I've downloaded Bbc sounds to listen to the Nolan Investigation now.

This is how I imagine a Stonewall weekly team meeting.

@Tobogganist I have recently started reading too and am astounded. Yes listen to all 10 episodes of the bbc investigation. It all starts slotting into place and once you see it you cannot unsee it. Welcome to the team!

yes, the word "Mother" is nowhere to be found in the mygov.scot Employer guide to Maternity Leave. I can't find the original prior to revision, but not using 'Mother' in a Maternity policy takes some doing.

It occurs to me though that it's still half-baked: the word "maternity" itself derives from the Latin for mother; and there are still some references to "mother" in other documents on the website (e.g. the Mother and Baby Unit Family Fund ).

Advice to Employers has a much bigger reach and influence than advice to individuals, so they would have prioritised that. Perhaps they're keeping the remaining whiff of 'mother' in reserve to earn some more Stonewall points next year?

Oh another funny thing my DM said to me tonight - and Robert Winston said x, y and z and he is bloody right! And he said he would be ‘cancelled’ for it (personally I think he was so clever to say that).

Haha I said mum firstly he didn’t say that (he actually said that it is not possible for anybody to change their biological sex - it is in the nucleus of every cell in your body), secondly did you watch it (answer no she didn’t). But thing is she KNEW about it.

This stuff is starting to filter through now. If even my mum knows summat is up.

@BaronMunchausen

yes, the word "Mother" is nowhere to be found in the mygov.scot Employer guide to Maternity Leave. I can't find the original prior to revision, but not using 'Mother' in a Maternity policy takes some doing.

It occurs to me though that it's still half-baked: the word "maternity" itself derives from the Latin for mother; and there are still some references to "mother" in other documents on the website (e.g. the Mother and Baby Unit Family Fund ).

Advice to Employers has a much bigger reach and influence than advice to individuals, so they would have prioritised that. Perhaps they're keeping the remaining whiff of 'mother' in reserve to earn some more Stonewall points next year?

There's a 'was this helpful' section you can fill in at the bottom of that page.

Not that filling it in will make the slightest bit of difference but it was a little fuck you.

It's thoroughly depressing OP. I often wonder why more (any??) middle aged woman don't 'transition' it sucks being second class.