Are the BBC about to leave Stonewall?

[RoyalCorgi]

According to ex-BBC staffer Ben Hunte, yes:

www.vice.com/en/article/akgxm5/bbc-expected-to-quit-stonewalls-lgbtq-diversity-programme

Time is fleeting.

Madness takes its toll.

Are there outfits and songs to accompany this?

@Needmoresleep

Prof Stock is the wrong kind of LGBT+ person, clearly.

Perhaps because she is female. Some men really do not like women.

In SW terms, she's not only female, she's a married woman and in the world according to SW, she's a cis heteronormative lesbian.

Can SW imagine anyone lower if they had gender castes (riffing off Sheila Jeffreys' sex castes)?

Masdintle - I've got to keep control.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Time is fleeting.

Madness takes its toll.

Are there outfits and songs to accompany this?

I remember ...

Arabella, I laughed long and hard. Cheers.

@Jaysmith71

Scared was when Saville, Johnathan King and Stuart Hall were prowling the corridors at Beeb Towers.

Scared was when Ed Murrow broadcast live from the BH Balcony while the bombs were falling.

Scared was Frank Gardiner begging for his life after being shot. Wynford Vaughan Thomas on the Normandy Beaches. Richard Dimbleby at Belsen. Steve Evans inside the World Trade Center on 9/11.

When Dorries says the BBC might not be around in ten years, she might have a point.

Hear, hear. See also Dame Jenni Murray publicly rebuked for expressing her opinions in measured terms in an opinion piece when male colleagues weren't for more controversial articles.

If Stonewall are dumped by the BBC, I bet the blackness will hit them, and the void will be calling.

It's just a jump to the left, really, from where the BBC have been dithering in the middle ground the past few months.

given the standards of Hunte's journalism I will wait to hear from a vaguely credible source.

Indeed, if this is true I think it will be the first time he's ever reported a story accurately.

Every single article for the BBC was 'people have told me'- never any sources named, except Stonewall press releases.

“BBC bosses feel that they can’t allow the organisation to be connected to Stonewall in any way, because the BBC needs to be ‘impartial on LGBTQ lives’.”

My God it took the BBC long enough to work that one out. Anyway, it's not LGBTQ lives, it on LGBTQ issues. They always have to make everything about life or death, their usual hyperbole.

Finally the BBC do something good in this area (if it's true) and no employer needs to have Stonewall expensively on board in order to treat LGBTQ+++ legally and fairly.

@RoyalCorgi: 'One of the remarkable things about all of this is the realisation that OJ actually believes this stuff. He's not just jumping on a bandwagon, he really truly and sincerely believes that trans are the most marginalised group, and they are being oppressed by us wicked feminists. He genuinely thinks he is on the right side of history'.

Did you see that event with OJ , Paris Lees, Munroe Bergdorf (I think) and others trans glitterati where OJ said he'd not realised before that trans people were responsible for setting up Stonewall etc and are the reason we all have so many rights (or words to that effect)? No, Owen, you didn't know that because IT IS NOT TRUE.

It's often said that once gay marriage was allowed Stonewall lost its purpose and had to swerve towards becoming a trans rights organisation in order to justify its continuation. Gaining civil rights does not mean a group is suddenly free from facing problems. It frustrates me that an organisation as well-funded as Stonewall spends its money on lobbying, training sessions and handing out badges, instead of providing things like homeless shelters, domestic violence shelters and rape crisis services for LGBT people. I've known people become homeless and prostituted and incredibly abused and vulnerable because they are LGBT, and it's disgraceful that Stonewall's mission is more about corporate rainbow-washing than actually doing the dirty work of helping people in a concrete and quantifiable way.

Ah, imagine living in Owen Jones' head; It's so dreamy, oh fantasy free me.

I'm not giving him the clicks, but this sort of rumour headline sounds like it's devised to instigate a social media pile-on to try to head the BBC off at the pass

I agree with IvyTwines it’s a stalking horse isn’t it?
The BBC need a big public response supporting them around leaving. They will be shit scared of getting bad feedback on social media.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10068837/Now-BBC-ditches-Stonewall-State-broadcaster-expected-latest-organisation-walk.html

“Bbc ditches controversial LGBT charity” - controversial would not have been used a year ago.

Just read in that Daily Mail article, quoting from Carrie Johnson’s speech:
That is why it is so important that the UK will be hosting its first ever global conference of LGBT+ right next year.

Anyone seen any further details of this ‘global’ event? I wonder what the UK will bring as its issues to that.

“Bbc ditches controversial LGBT charity” - controversial would not have been used a year ago.

It should always be, controversial lobbying organisation, Stonewall

The BBC need to go subscription only - let the misogynists pay for it. I don’t even listen to Radio 4 now…

But I don’t even feel that they would have lost purpose after gay marriage - we know that discrimination still occurs and homophobic bullying and attacks still occur. There’s lots they could have done around TQ acceptance without losing their minds.

we’ve seen with organisations like Pregnant Then Screwed that having the legislation doesn’t automatically mean that the system works.

Wow I've missed a dozy of a day! Just heard this!

Another contradiction actually.

"The world is an anti-trans horror show"

"The number of trans people is increasing because society is more accepting so people are able to come out as trans"

@ArabellaScott

Ah, imagine living in Owen Jones' head; It's so dreamy, oh fantasy free me.

I think he is in another dimension

I'll stop there to avoid deletion

Looking at this on twitter there's an interesting juxtaposition of bbc trending due to Savile (tv drama, obviously they did nothing) and bbc trending with stonewall. 🤔

Today is the day Sky have launched their Streaming-Only Non-TV TV.

Come gather round people, wherever you roam, and admit that the waters around you have grown....

Well, I'm just a middle aged woman, to the BBC.

So you can't see me, no, not at all.