Met Police officer becomes Britain's first 'bi-gender' PC

[Mollyollydolly]

Read and weep. Two warrant cards, one male, one female.
After this week and what we've learnt about the Met.

You couldn't make it up.

“The first time I walked into a Met building as Abi, I was hyperventilating so much I almost passed out.
I’ve done it a handful of times since and felt so happy that I got to be me at work. Abi is a part of me that exists and I want that part to be recognised and validated."

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-officer-becomes-britain-s-first-bigender-pc-a3546881.html

He gets to have two names?
Why is being a man who likes to wear a dress to work not ok? I think most of us could get on board with that. Believing you have two co-existing personalities sounds like multiple personality disorder.

Sorry, it is now called Dissociative identity disorder, google tells me.

You do realise the warrant number is the same on both cards?

But two different names / gender identities. One male and one female. Correct?

Its a great big fuck off from me too. I ride big motorbikes, maybe I should be a man on those days ff's.

It's utterly insane in this day and age that we have a person working for bloody police who one day says they are a man and the next day says they're woman.

It's mad.

L

Oops, pocket post!

The dictators running hostile nation states are pointing and laughing at us.

Our police and soldiers are meant to be tough and resilient defending the state and the vulnerable from harm and yet they have turned into this

here's a little question....

If a hostile state wants to astroturf and bankroll an activist group, what kind of group do they choose?

Image you are a tyranical leader of a hostile nation state who wants to astroturf a gay rights movement - which of the gay man in the below video do you give the funding to?

It wouldn’t have happened. That person works in a completely different field. Why is everyone on this thread worrying about something that couldn’t happen on the say so of the Sun? Could it be…prejudice?

One collar number. The problem is?

One collar number. The problem is?

One collar number. Two identities. Two names. One male. One female. Same person. In a position of power in the police. You can't see any problems with that?

Missing the point. A la Sun

@NoraNik

It wouldn’t have happened. That person works in a completely different field. Why is everyone on this thread worrying about something that couldn’t happen on the say so of the Sun? Could it be…prejudice?

This is from the Met Police document posted earlier:

If you identify as non-binary gender, and wish to have the capability to present how you feel at work, you are encouraged to speak to your line management in order to facilitate this. Whilst each case will need to be assessed on an individual basis, line management are strongly encouraged to do all they can to allow individuals to be themselves. This potentially includes secondary warrant cards, uniform or email addresses if required.

As an example, a successful pilot project has been completed with a self-declared non-binary officer who works in SO. The officer now holds two warrant cards and has two e-mail addresses.

www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2019/july_2019/information-rights-unit---transgender-policy

It's not just something made up by the Sun.

@NoraNik

One collar number. The problem is?

Well, I wouldn't particularly notice the collar number. Why would I?

I would notice two names and two genders.

In my professional life that would be just fine. In day to day life, also fine. When I had just been sexually assaulted and this person was taking my statement? No, that would be difficult and confusing to cope with.

Why did you say, "the dual warrant card angle is clearly inaccurate" when it is apparent from a Met policy document that this has happened. And it's apparent from your subsequent posts that you were aware of this.

Why do you say, "It wouldn’t have happened. That person works in a completely different field" when Met policy clearly means that it could?

That Met document can't be the finished version, there's a mistake in it.

Several terms are defined directly based on the term "gender", but that word isn't defined at all.

Can you explain what it is, please, NoraNik - genuinely looking to become educated on this.

(I haven't read the Sun article so am not commenting on that, just the official Met document)

What a load of transphobic nonsense on this thread. If I need the police, I really couldn’t be bothered about the gender identity of whichever officer attends.

I’m seeing the prejudice in this thread rather more. Nasty bunch

I'm not. I'm seeing perfectly reasonable questions from some, and complete denial that there's an issue from others. Same old problem. Same old denialists resorting to name calling.
What a shame that some people's ability to formulate discussion and debate is unable to go beyond name calling when they don't agree with others. :-(

What a load of transphobic nonsense on this thread. If I need the police, I really couldn’t be bothered about the gender identity of whichever officer attends

Are you happy to be searched by a male officer?

I wouldn’t have any concern about being searched by a trans-women. Given all the abuse and negativity they’d have to endure for their gender identify, I’d be pretty confident they weren’t identifying as female just to cop a feel…

@Cheshirewife

What a load of transphobic nonsense on this thread. If I need the police, I really couldn’t be bothered about the gender identity of whichever officer attends.

Jolly good for you but if I'm a victim of sexual assault or rape I want a female officer not one who flip-flops their indefinable gender identity from one day to the next and I also rather not entrust any evidence gathering to such a person.

@Cheshirewife

I wouldn’t have any concern about being searched by a trans-women. Given all the abuse and negativity they’d have to endure for their gender identify, I’d be pretty confident they weren’t identifying as female just to cop a feel…

You can be used as a validation tool all you like, I won't be.

Reminds me of my neighbour who said she could never trust a black doctor. Deserves exactly the same response too!

@Cheshirewife

Reminds me of my neighbour who said she could never trust a black doctor. Deserves exactly the same response too!

What do you think gender identity is, exactly? I can't quite see how that analogy works. How do you, or anyone else, know the gender identity of a police officer? You're talking about checking their warrant card or whatever?