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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Keira Bell - confirming appeal to Supreme Court

40 replies

OhHolyJesus · 04/10/2021 19:08

All power to you Keira! I thank you for your persistence and determination and I'm (still) standing with you.

Text from the crowdfunder update:

APPEAL DECISION
On 17th September 2021 a decision at the Court of Appeal was reached. You can read it here. I am obviously disappointed with the ruling of the Court and especially that it did not grapple with the significant risk of harm that children are exposed to by being given powerful experimental drugs. I am surprised and disappointed that the Court was not concerned that children as young as 10 have been put on a pathway to sterilisation.
I have no regrets in bringing this case along with Mrs A and Sue Evans. It has shone a light into the dark corners of a medical scandal that is harming children and harmed me.
There is more to be done. It is a fantasy and deeply concerning that any doctor could believe a 10 year could consent to the loss of their fertility. In a medical service that sits outside conventional medical practice it is inadequate to say "trust the doctor". I am therefore seeking permission to appeal to the Supreme Court. Due to this, we have upped the target by 20k.
I wish to thank those who have supported me and Mrs A throughout this case whether through your messages or finances. Thank you so much.

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ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 04/10/2021 19:42

Thanks for the update! Have done some gardening.

TimeToDateAgain · 04/10/2021 20:14

I'll chip in. I'm fed up with having to fund the right for women to retain legal rights and I can't believe that we're having to argue against what seems like medical malpractice but that's neither here nor there because that's where we are in contemporary politics.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 04/10/2021 20:25

I'm in

why we have to pay to bring the medical community to its senses I'll never know. but sterilising children has to stop.

Conniethesensible · 04/10/2021 20:45

The Court of Appeal said that “the [original] claim for judicial review should have been dismissed” outright and points out that it “was inappropriate for the Divisional Court to provide the guidance” in the first place.

I’d rather fund an investigation or proceedings against the met about how they’re treating women quite frankly.

EdgeOfACoin · 04/10/2021 21:00

Oh but Connie, how are you defining 'woman'

Gncq · 04/10/2021 21:03

@Conniethesensible

The Court of Appeal said that “the [original] claim for judicial review should have been dismissed” outright and points out that it “was inappropriate for the Divisional Court to provide the guidance” in the first place.

I’d rather fund an investigation or proceedings against the met about how they’re treating women quite frankly.

Or both even...?
Gncq · 04/10/2021 21:03

Kiera Bell is incredible

TimeToDateAgain · 04/10/2021 21:08

I’d rather fund an investigation or proceedings against the met about how they’re treating women quite frankly.

Set-up a crowdfunder if there's no sign of an official enquiry and I'm up for a contribution to it.

teawamutu · 04/10/2021 21:15

@Conniethesensible

The Court of Appeal said that “the [original] claim for judicial review should have been dismissed” outright and points out that it “was inappropriate for the Divisional Court to provide the guidance” in the first place.

I’d rather fund an investigation or proceedings against the met about how they’re treating women quite frankly.

Happy to support both.

Even if the Supreme Court appeal is completely doomed I'll still dig, because the publicity is absolutely priceless.

Anotheruser02 · 04/10/2021 22:01

I think she is brilliant, she is still processing and healing from what she has been through and still pushing on with this.

SweetGrapes · 05/10/2021 08:56

Once again chipping in. Also am happy to split my money two or three or more ways to support other causes that are close to my heart.

Just sad there are so many fights that need fighting.

Artichokeleaves · 05/10/2021 09:07

It is sad. So many battles, almost all of them with a woman at the heart of it reliant on grassroots support from other women.

It's even sadder to see how brutally Keira is being spoken to by some on Twitter, who would be the first to tell you all about the fragility of trans people and the necessity for extreme sensitivity and how awful it is that women are allowed to speak plainly here in a way that might hurt feelings. Apparently all that changes if they talk about a less than positive experience.

NewMutiny · 05/10/2021 09:30

@TimeToDateAgain

I’d rather fund an investigation or proceedings against the met about how they’re treating women quite frankly.

Set-up a crowdfunder if there's no sign of an official enquiry and I'm up for a contribution to it.

Yes do let us have the link for that once you have set up won't you?
MrsWooster · 05/10/2021 09:35

Dig we must, for a better Britain.

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 05/10/2021 09:40

I'm glad she's continuing the battle.

The appeal would not have been granted if there were no grounds.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/10/2021 09:42

@Xoxoxoxoxoxox

I'm glad she's continuing the battle.

The appeal would not have been granted if there were no grounds.

It's permission to appeal, not an appeal afaict.

I am therefore seeking permission to appeal to the Supreme Court.

Anotheruser02 · 05/10/2021 12:10

@Artichokeleaves

It is sad. So many battles, almost all of them with a woman at the heart of it reliant on grassroots support from other women.

It's even sadder to see how brutally Keira is being spoken to by some on Twitter, who would be the first to tell you all about the fragility of trans people and the necessity for extreme sensitivity and how awful it is that women are allowed to speak plainly here in a way that might hurt feelings. Apparently all that changes if they talk about a less than positive experience.

Too true. All of it.
TooWicked · 05/10/2021 12:14

I will happily chip in again.

Even if permission to appeal is not granted, the sunlight this is allowing to shine on the issue is worth every penny for me.

ComprehensiveTea · 05/10/2021 12:15

Oh, I hope she gets permission! (Never knew you first had to.... interesting.)
Will the story of Marci Bowers being critical of blockers make a difference?

TooWicked · 05/10/2021 12:16

Will also happily donate to a crowdfunder re investigation into the met police @Conniethesensible when you’ve set one up or linked to one you’ve found.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/10/2021 12:27

On what grounds can permission to appeal be granted or denied?

Are these about technicalities or about the substance of the evidence?

Gncq · 05/10/2021 12:30

Looks like it's if you can afford it

ChattyLion · 05/10/2021 12:37

I am so relieved that Keira’s keeping going. Thank goodness. Thank you so much Keira and your co-applicants. Thanks to everyone who’s chipping in. We can do this!

Outofexcuses · 05/10/2021 12:43

Definitely worth supporting.

highame · 05/10/2021 13:13

Bags of sunlight, win or lose. Also, the publicity might cause Sajid Javid to step in. Public opinion is important and public opinion is firmly against this sort of treatment