Would you be put off sending your dc to a secondary school...

[thirdistheonewiththehairychest]

...if when you went to the open evening, lots of the teachers had their pronouns displayed on their classroom doors?

It would put me off

A school which doesn't stem this nonsense is likely to have a lot of needless classroom disruption. It's an open goal for troublemakers.

"Miss! Johnny misgendered me!"

Yes.

Yes.

Wouldn't send my child there

Wouldn't work there as a teacher

Automatically off the list for me. DH would feel the same. This ideology is dangerous and I will not expose my children to it willingly or knowingly.

@Snoozer11

I know of a maths teacher in Didsbury calling themselves 'Mx' instead of 'Miss'.

I don't even know how you'd pronounce that.

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to get rid of miss and Mrs totally and replace all with Ms though - why are females know by their marital status signaling availability why men aren’t ? Mx though - not heard that one before

@MrsMiddleMother

No - I would be happy to send my child there. I think it shows respect and commitment to people's pronouns.

Yeah I mean I also think that prepositions get nowhere near enough respect these days too.

And has anyone actually published any research that says that lying to children and then pushing them down a path of irreversible medical intervention and lifelong dependency is a bad thing? In the absence of evidence let’s assume everything is just hunky-dory.

Or alternatively perhaps take the pronouns theatre as a massive red flag and do not send your child there. I wouldn’t.

I would have concern yes. I would have more concerns if I was considering sending my daughter there. If they are into pronouns does it also mean they are ok with boys in girls spaces?

And for full disclosure I have sent my DD12 to an all girls school mainly because of the statistics of sexual abuse against girls in mixed secondary schools AND that I didn't want her being taught any gender wang.

Yes and ignoring all my personal views about pronouns, my gender dysphoric DD hates the prominence of pronouns. It makes her GD worse to be asked what her pronouns are (as it makes it clear she’s not obviously a boy) and the performative nature of displaying pronouns makes her uncomfortable and anxious.

I’d have a look around and see if they are as visibly supportive to pupils who are not white, pupils who are disabled, those with additional needs and if they are visibly empowering and protecting girls.

If the answer to all of that is “no, it’s just pronouns” I would not send my child there and I’d send an email to the HT, with the governors CC’d, to explain how disappointed you are that other pupils are not being as visibly supported.

God I would have done a massive eye roll and thought 'fuck where am I going to send them now'

I would resign from teaching in a school that mandated this. And I would leave teaching altogether if I couldn't find another school that wasn't peddling this bs.

No. The pronoun thing has always seemed like a small, silly distraction.

@HipTightOnions

I do wonder what happens if a male teacher specifies “she/her” pronouns.

Do the children have to call him “miss”? Do the other teachers have to lie to the children that he is a woman (because they will ask)?

I understand the children Debbie Hayton teaches have to refer to Debbie as Miss In class. This article Debbie wrote about their ‘controlled social observations’ is wince making physicsworld.com/a/gender-balance-one-woman-at-a-time/

The 'progressive consensus' is consistently 'transing away the gay', telling lesbians they shouldn't use the word, insisting homosexuals should accept people of the opposite sex in their 'dating pool' and considering ways to counter the 'cotton ceiling' (ie erode the boundaries of women's sexual consent).

Yes, the homophobia bound up in all this winds me up too.

I just realised that this is a church school. They teach idiotic, dangerous made-up bullshit all day anyway, pronouns just seem like a small addition to that.

Yes

Ahh people who like to think of themselves and ignore something very simple that they can do to make others more comfortable.

I don’t display my pronouns on anything no.

But frankly if feminism is saying you won’t send a child to a school because of displayed pronouns and refusing to use correct pronouns for people - I’m quite frankly ashamed to be female.

Oh and MX is pronounced - MIX - thank you.

@Nosquit “refusing to use correct pronouns”

The objection is that children might be compelled to use incorrect pronouns, isn’t it?

I’d hate it but I suspect it’s crept into most schools so my plan is to be very open with the children about gender ideology and hope they are kind but cynical.

And for poster who says their GD chins hates this kind of obvious pronoun showing:

I’m sorry for that. My above comment was not to do with situations like that but to do with the fact that those who don’t like it seem to be anti-trans. It’s difficult isn’t it when the world tries to be understanding as can never get it completely right.
Though is your DC a biological girl who is actually a boy or a biological boy who is actually a girl? Your post implied the latter but you called them your DD and implied she.

In my mind there is NOTHING wrong with using correct pronouns, names, genders, when addressing others. There is no reason why, if a child feels they are trans, that we can’t do this for them because it really will make them feel much happier. It doesn’t mean we can’t also have conversations about why they feel the way they do. About it doesn’t matter what gender/sex you are you can still do anything you want to do so they don’t need to change gender to still be them etc etc etc.

I can only advise that my teen (Y10) finds all the gender woo shit very tedious and self absorbed. She is totally relaxed about people being lesbian, gay or bisexual. Or wearing what they want. The rest just makes her roll her eyes . She went to a Catholic primary and is quite familiar with ideology being imposed as fact. She isn't alone.
If she is typical of younger Gen Z people, the novelty of this has worn thin and is falling out of favour.

I'd wonder what other piffle they taught - especially in biology!

[quote MidsomerMurmurs]**@Nosquit* “refusing to use correct pronouns”*

The objection is that children might be compelled to use incorrect pronouns, isn’t it?[/quote]
What do you mean by incorrect? If you mean using pronouns that are not correct for the person concerned then yup.
If you mean using pronouns that are dependant by what is between their legs then nope.