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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A mother’s account of how her daughter was saved from the gender transition industry

18 replies

MidsomerMurmurs · 30/09/2021 22:46

Couldn’t see a thread on this. There’s such a lot to digest in this post, including about the inherent racism in much gender ideology, just to add to the obvious homophobia and misogyny that’s central to it.
pitt.substack.com/p/to-my-daughters-therapist-you-were

Well worth reading.

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EdgeOfACoin · 01/10/2021 04:59

Really good article. It's shocking how uninformed and incurious so many therapists are about this subject. They're happy to prescribe hormones and surgery after three 45 minute sessions and won't look into other possible causes for the dysphoria.

Interesting as well that getting the daughter away from the US helped a lot.

NutellaEllaElla · 01/10/2021 05:11

It doesn't help that bodies such as the BPS advise the affirmative model.

NutellaEllaElla · 01/10/2021 05:12

Not that that is relevant in this case given the BPS are UK based.

LoislovesStewie · 01/10/2021 05:25

Excellent article, many thanks for sharing.

Oblomov21 · 01/10/2021 05:39

I hate all this. My friend has agreed to her ds who wants to become a dd to having blockers, but far too speedily for my liking.

Mybalconyiscracking · 01/10/2021 06:51

It is obvious that the girls I know who say they want to be male don’t actually want to be male, they just aren’t ready to be grown up women.

toothpicklover · 01/10/2021 07:08

In some ways anorexia was easier to treat for those girls who hated their bodies and the growing up, so they stunted it by starving themselves.
You can’t really reverse testosterone or having their tits chopped off.

It’s incredibly sad and very scary.

Helleofabore · 01/10/2021 10:36

Thanks for sharing.

If this can be happening under the eye of a parent who is a clinical psychologist themselves, it is very concerning.

Whatwouldscullydo · 01/10/2021 10:47

Thanks for this op

An utterly heartbreaking account. So close. So scarily close to an entirely different path where none if her actual problem would have been dealt with.

I cant imagine how terrified she was

CatherinaJTV · 01/10/2021 10:49

How is that even relevant when wait times in England are YEARS? Who is "rushing"?

MidsomerMurmurs · 01/10/2021 10:51

@CatherinaJTV

How is that even relevant when wait times in England are YEARS? Who is "rushing"?
The US-based gender juggernaut. Coming soon over here unless the institutional capture is dealt with. Does that help answer your question?
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/10/2021 10:55

@CatherinaJTV

How is that even relevant when wait times in England are YEARS? Who is "rushing"?
Wait times are only years if you go through the NHS. There are plenty of private quacks.
IvyTwines2 · 01/10/2021 11:03

Yes, take a look at the number of youngsters raising money to pay privately to 'delete the teets' on the mainstream crowdfunding sites.

IvyTwines2 · 01/10/2021 11:06

Or indeed 'helpful' articles like the Guardian's one on 'Hannah' the Roblox gamer back in April this year, raising money through gaming and now, age 20 but dressed like a little girl, looking forward to penis removal.

DrBlackbird · 01/10/2021 11:07

@CatherinaJTV

How is that even relevant when wait times in England are YEARS? Who is "rushing"?
Not only are there plenty of private clinics happy to provide a service, but almost every single affirmative trans advocate specifically mention their names in their SM posts i.e. in YouTube vids and in Insta posts etc. They also talk about how they went about privately funding. Plus, not sure how Insta’s algorithm works, but these posts crop up much much more frequently than any other posts.
Helleofabore · 01/10/2021 11:57

Maybe CatherinaJTV would be interested in this article from the Telegraph. I am surprised considering how long Catherina has been visiting these boards that they will have missed GenderGP and their activities.

Including immediately after the Bell vs Tavi case, starting crowd funding for adolescents to be able to access their services instead.

To read it, copy and past the link below and put the letters 'is' where it is blank (since these links are immediately deleted by MN now for some reason)

archive. /EKbP5

Or if you are telegraph subscriber

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/26/children-can-order-life-altering-transgender-drugs-bedroom/

Highly relevant to the UK, no?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 01/10/2021 12:20

If the current version of the self-styled anti-conversion guidelines is passed, such parenting would be impossible in the UK. There is no nuance presented that would support establishing where there are multimorbid emotional, environmental or mental health contributions to young people presenting for gender identity assessment.

Human rights lawyers call on UK government to ban ‘conversion therapy’
Experts say all practices, including prayer, aiming to change sexual orientation or gender identity must be criminalised

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/01/human-rights-lawyers-call-on-uk-government-to-ban-conversion-therapy

I know people affected by treatment or interventions that were aimed at changing their sexual orientation: wholly abhorrent. I do not see gender identity in the same way: I would want a full psychological assessment of anyone before they progressed to irreversible changes. Shared-decision making is not just for some parts of healthcare.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/10/2021 18:06

@CatherinaJTV

How is that even relevant when wait times in England are YEARS? Who is "rushing"?
It isn't compulsory to use the National Health Service, and private healthcare isn't banned.

We do, in fact, live in a capitalistic society in little old England, in which people in an array of occupations can directly exchange services for money, without a state intermediary. Such occupations include plumbers, maths tutors, and also surgeons, doctors, pharmacists, and psychologists.

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