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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Owen Jones' Cognitive Dissonance

26 replies

ScreamingMeMe · 25/09/2021 08:27

Something for you to roll your eyes at this morning.

Male violence against girls and women is the responsibility of men to deal with, not for women to change their behaviour to avoid it"

@OwenJones84
says it's not enough for men to say "it's not all men" in response to the murder of Sabina Nessa.

#JeremyVine

twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1441318723441160193?s=20

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BreatheAndFocus · 25/09/2021 08:45

OJ says anything that makes him look on trend. I don’t think there is any cognitive dissonance for him. Awful lot of misogyny though.

Teapiggies · 25/09/2021 08:48

Owen out on Feminism Safari again…

1Endeavour2 · 25/09/2021 09:04

What has this baby prat ever done to earn access to so much air space in British media?
Let's face it, he has not been on this planet long enough to learn and gain wisdom and experience yet the media keeps going back for more.
Bit like asking a hospital porter for his views on your upcoming brain surgery.
To me, he hardly looks old enough to wipe his own bottom competently and remember to wash his hands....

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/09/2021 09:07

Please someone post the Owen Jones doing the Dr Drake Ramoray smell the fart acting pic pretty pretty please.

exwhyzed · 25/09/2021 09:10

@1Endeavour2

What has this baby prat ever done to earn access to so much air space in British media? Let's face it, he has not been on this planet long enough to learn and gain wisdom and experience yet the media keeps going back for more. Bit like asking a hospital porter for his views on your upcoming brain surgery. To me, he hardly looks old enough to wipe his own bottom competently and remember to wash his hands....
Can't stand the bloke but he is 37 and I don't think how someone looks should ever impact on how much people respect what they have to say.

He should be judged on his words and actions not his appearance.

But through his words and actions he comes across as a misogynistic prat.... so that's all in him.

KimikosNightmare · 25/09/2021 09:11

Was everyone else in the whole of the UK busy that morning?

TurquoiseBaubles · 25/09/2021 09:27

How many times did he use the word "women" in that clip? Isn't that transphobic?

Langsdestiny · 25/09/2021 09:31

He is 37.
I assume we allow 37 year old to be surgeons and yo hold other important jobs. He is however a grade a misogynist. It's a little bit scary to be honest, without this issue I doubt I would have realised the strength of his views on women.

Mumsnut · 25/09/2021 09:37

Cocknitive dissonance

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 25/09/2021 09:38

I see this on a very lefty forum I’m on. In one breath wringing their hands about how men can ensure women feel safe, in the next one dismissing anyone that has concerns about penises in women’s spaces as t*rfs. It’s baffling that they can’t see it.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/09/2021 09:53

@Mumsnut

Cocknitive dissonance
Grin
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AnyOldPrion · 25/09/2021 10:01

@GingerAndTheBiscuits

I see this on a very lefty forum I’m on. In one breath wringing their hands about how men can ensure women feel safe, in the next one dismissing anyone that has concerns about penises in women’s spaces as t*rfs. It’s baffling that they can’t see it.
They don’t actually listen to what women are saying, do they? His concentration is presumably focussed on men and their reactions to the news laid in front of them by other men, so women being murdered is in there, but not the growing concerns of thousands of women about the things those women recognise as harmful to the women who don’t make the news, like those in prison, or who can’t use rape-crisis because they fear the men who are now allowed to use them.
Imnobody4 · 25/09/2021 10:04

I've just watched that video without the sound. I find it hilarious, his whole body language shrieks arrogance and pomposity. He really can have no self knowledge or humility.

Islamorada · 25/09/2021 10:11

Do not give any attention to that idiot. 🤮

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 25/09/2021 10:14

Saw this yesterday and was raging. Owen Jones accuses women who have been abused of making themselves 'martyrs', of painting themselves as victims and ignoring the 'real victims', but then when he can use the murder of a woman to virtue signal about what a great guy he is on national television, then suddenly he is all over VAWG.

He did this exact thing before: accused JKR of making herself a 'martyr' after she had written about her abuse and then the very next day, used her to have a go at The Sun newspaper when they published that front page of her abuser.

Women and their experiences are only useful to Owen when he can use them to further his own profile. At all other times they are not worthy of being listened to and should be instantly dismissed.

Prick.

donquixotedelamancha · 25/09/2021 10:24

Can't stand the bloke but he is 37 and I don't think how someone looks should ever impact on how much people respect what they have to say.

I agree. I have contempt for the YouTuber Owen Jones because he makes his money by being the left wing Katie Hopkins; it has noting to do with the fact that he looks like the love child of Beaker and Gollum.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 25/09/2021 10:54

he makes his money by being the left wing Katie Hopkins

That is perfect

Youtuber Owen Jones: the left wing Katie Hopkins Grin

Teapiggies · 25/09/2021 10:57

Owen LOVES women at times like this, as useful cannon fodder in his war against the right wing Etonian elite. Not so much when they actually have opinions and want to assert their rights.

Blackopal · 25/09/2021 10:59

Utter turd

KimThomas · 25/09/2021 11:00

@Passmeamenuatthetottenham

Saw this yesterday and was raging. Owen Jones accuses women who have been abused of making themselves 'martyrs', of painting themselves as victims and ignoring the 'real victims', but then when he can use the murder of a woman to virtue signal about what a great guy he is on national television, then suddenly he is all over VAWG.

He did this exact thing before: accused JKR of making herself a 'martyr' after she had written about her abuse and then the very next day, used her to have a go at The Sun newspaper when they published that front page of her abuser.

Women and their experiences are only useful to Owen when he can use them to further his own profile. At all other times they are not worthy of being listened to and should be instantly dismissed.

Prick.

Exactly. When Rosie Duffield, a domestic abuse survivor, complained about receiving death threats, he accused her of playing at being a victim. He then used his experience of being attacked to claim that the “real” problem was violence against gay people, not women.

The absolute nerve of the man going on national media to pretend he cares about violence against women is breathtaking.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/09/2021 13:20

Male violence against girls and women is the responsibility of men to deal with, not for women to change their behaviour to avoid it"

I wonder how long it will take before Owen Jones is upbraided for his antiquated language? Fixed it for him.

Male violence against girls and women bodies with vaginas is the responsibility of men to deal with, not for women adult bodies with vaginas to change their behaviour to avoid it"

JellySlice · 25/09/2021 13:36

For there to be any cognitive dissonance there has to be cognition in the first place. Something LOJ clearly lacks.

Congressdingo · 25/09/2021 13:45

Ah see little oj made a massive mistake by not asking every single body with a vagina what pronouns they use. Just assuming is not enough.

InvisibleDragon · 25/09/2021 14:17

I think he's not talking about bodies with vaginas. He's talking about people with a female gender identity. So he is allowed to say women.

PickAChew · 25/09/2021 16:19

There is a broken clock visible from my house.

It tells the right time for 1/720 of the day.

OK is about the same.

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