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Cabinet reshuffle ahoy!

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Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 12:29

Looks like Raab and Williamson are for the long overdue chop.

Others will be moved round.

Keep watching.

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Nachthex · 16/09/2021 08:35

'Nadine Dorries, new SS for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, in 2018:
"I am a woman. Women, noun, adult human female. Come and get me, Twitter activists."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3376709-nadine-dorries'

Sadly, no longer seems to be her bio.

SpindleWhorl · 16/09/2021 09:16

Laura Kuenssberg is struggling to understand the 'ideology' of the new Cabinet, bless.

There are many more jobs to be allocated, more intrigue to come when middle-ranking and junior ministers get their P45s or offers. But the shape of the cabinet itself is clear.

What's harder to divine is any one strong political ideology, or any radical guiding idea. Certainly, politicians popular with the Tory party like Truss seem to have prospered. Loyalty to the prime minister himself seems to have been rewarded.

It's a Cabinet, my dear Laura from the BBC, of politicians who (a) know what a woman is, (b) know what the electorate want, and (c) see what a mess Labour is in over batshit ideology.

It's a Cabinet of material reality still cleaning up the mess Cameron left behind and May ignored, to take poll position over 'the looney left'.

And until Starmer bloody well does something about the TRA misogyny in his Party, this will be how it is - and it's so, so frustrating.

Abhannmor · 16/09/2021 09:58

@Cygne

How is it good that Truss retains the Women and Equality role? Since when did a Foreign Secretary have loads of time to spare to cover a second ministerial function? Yet again that role is being sidelined.
Probably since the Robin Cook was Foreign Secretary. He was the last one with the brains and guts to actually influence foreign policy.
SpindleWhorl · 16/09/2021 10:07

The Mail is reporting that Mordaunt has been moved to Trade, but as a junior minister, so it's a demotion - and she'll likely not be speaking in the Commons again on behalf of the government spouting 'TWAW and TMAM' as if it were government policy (it isn't) and pissing everyone off.

And she won't be invited into the full Cabinet meetings any more, I don't think.

To think she was once Secretary of State for Defence, and aiming for the PM position.

teawamutu · 16/09/2021 10:16

@Cygne

How is it good that Truss retains the Women and Equality role? Since when did a Foreign Secretary have loads of time to spare to cover a second ministerial function? Yet again that role is being sidelined.
She knows what a woman is.

A low bar, admittedly, but plenty of others are grimly determined to limbo under it.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 16/09/2021 10:20

I wonder how much connection there is between being popular with the Tory party and popular with voters. (Obviously if they are LK can’t say that as that would be drawing attention to the fact that some Tory politicians are actually not universally disliked.)

Jaysmith71 · 16/09/2021 12:02

Mourdant out. Also Whittingdale gone at last, can now spend more time with Miss Whiplash.

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Jaysmith71 · 16/09/2021 12:14

....hold that. Mourdant to Trade.

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Cygne · 16/09/2021 15:27

How is it good that Truss retains the Women and Equality role? Since when did a Foreign Secretary have loads of time to spare to cover a second ministerial function? Yet again that role is being sidelined.

She knows what a woman is.

A low bar, admittedly, but plenty of others are grimly determined to limbo under it.

But that's utterly irrelevant given that the job has effectively been obliterated because she won't have time to do anything effective in the Equality role, and she's not competent to cover one cabinet role adequately, let alone two. Can the conservatives really not dredge up one other MP who has any concept of equality?

flyingbuttress43 · 16/09/2021 15:34

Off topic, but it also means Truss would be the ones dealing with any future talks that could happen in the future with the Taliban. Should be interesting. Do you think their dicks will shrivel?

Needmoresleep · 16/09/2021 16:00

Can the conservatives really not dredge up one other MP who has any concept of equality?

Being a bit facetious but it sprang out out me.

Can Labour...can the Greens...can the LibDems...can Plaid Cymru?

The state we are in.

Needmoresleep · 16/09/2021 16:11

Also Liz Truss can delegate some of the day to day stuff to the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Minister for Women)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Berridge,_Baroness_Berridge

Cambridge educated barrister, with a strong interest in freedom of religion or belief. She has been in post for about a year.

Hopefully this means she understands why single sex spaces are important, at minimum from the perspective of women from certain religious backgrounds, and also a view on Stonewall Law and the influence lobbyists have had around interpretation of the Equalities Act.

Jaysmith71 · 16/09/2021 16:14

Reshuffle Goss:

New Culture Sec, Nadine Dorries! (Say it in a Dead Ringers "Diane Abbott!!!" style) wants UK broadcasters to make distinctively British shows "Such as Derry Girls."

And Michael Gove wants to rebrand HLG to be the Department for The Union and Levelling Up, but is having trouble thinking of a good Acronym: DUNE? DULU? DUNCE?

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highame · 16/09/2021 16:32

Minister of State at the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, jointly with the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (Minister for Equalities) – Kemi Badenoch MP

yippee!!!

DdraigGoch · 16/09/2021 16:53

@Cygne

How is it good that Truss retains the Women and Equality role? Since when did a Foreign Secretary have loads of time to spare to cover a second ministerial function? Yet again that role is being sidelined.
May and Rudd both held the role alongside being Home Secretary. I think the symbolism is more important than the actual work (which would be delegated anyway). Having someone who is outspoken on this and not afraid of being "cancelled" makes a big difference. No use having someone beavering away in an office, we need someone prepared to speak up.
teawamutu · 16/09/2021 18:17

Truss has declined to introduce self-ID and pushed for departments to ditch Stonewall.

That's more than we've had in years.

She may not be able to do much more, but she won't make it worse, I hope.

Like I say, low bar. For comparison purposes, imagine Mordaunt TWAW in the role. Or bloody Nandy.

Needmoresleep · 16/09/2021 18:55

Thinking about it a bit further, it is good that a Minster responsible for development and aid, knows what a woman is. Too many charities seem not to understand biological sex. Yet it is that same sex which causes women to be at risk in war zones, in refugee camps and in some societies. An aid focus on women, who normally the ones who feed, educate and protect their children, would be great.

teawamutu · 16/09/2021 19:15

Also, Dorries overseeing the BBC and social media companies could be interesting.

One more reason to resent Labour: making me able to see a silver lining in Nadine bloody Dorries being a minister Angry

ScribblingPixie · 16/09/2021 21:45

@teawamutu

Also, Dorries overseeing the BBC and social media companies could be interesting.

One more reason to resent Labour: making me able to see a silver lining in Nadine bloody Dorries being a minister Angry

And sport.
teawamutu · 16/09/2021 23:16

Sport? Ooo, now that is really interesting.

Fuck you, Labour, for bringing me to the depths where I think that.

Cygne · 16/09/2021 23:54

Truss has declined to introduce self-ID and pushed for departments to ditch Stonewall. That's more than we've had in years

Given that self-ID hasn't been introduced ever, how is continuing that state of affairs "more than we've had in years"?

Needmoresleep · 17/09/2021 08:31

Cygne, it’s more than we have had for years in that she has been willing to question Stonewall deep and pervasive influence within Whitehall.

Stonewall is now so very different from the once respected LGB organisation, that we have to welcome a woman that they so dislike. A case of them overplaying their hands with their insistence that their priorities should prevail without debate, even though the safety or comfort of women was threatened.

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