Lesbians attacked with fire at Bordeaux Pride France

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Video of attack: www.facebook.com/112742101041568/posts/151966257119152/

The women from Résistance Lesbienne explain what happened in English: www.facebook.com/GetTheLOutUK/videos/603549947469615/. There were chants of "burn the TERF". The police did nothing to stop the attack and refused to confront the attacker when asked for help by the women, advising them to leave instead.

Tweets bragging about the attack were posted afterwards mobile.twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1437083779969978380.

@PoppyMuldoon

Marzipan: On the sex thing I think it’s ridiculous that a lesbian would go with someone who has a penis. Or equally, a gay man go for someone who has a vagina. Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it. I guess there are trans women who stay married to their wives, and might consider it now best described as a lesbian relationship. If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

I’m glad you don’t think this should be compulsory. Unfortunately a lot of TRAs do! Hence the cotton ceiling, and hence the comment that "Being a lesbian isn't aboit being attracted to vagina/penis, it's about being attracted to women and women come in all shapes and forms....it's very transmisogynistic"

@Artichokeleaves

Male people assault female homosexuals for being female homosexuals.

Plus ca bloody change.

Yup

Straight up homophobia no?

Presume stonewall will be condemning it

@PoppyMuldoon

But lesbians were there. Supporting trans. Again, you talk as if all lesbians agree with you. Which is far from the case.

That’s not the point though is it love?

The point is that lesbians who disagree with the views you’re here as an apologist for get physically attacked

Well known transwoman would disagree with you poppy.
mobile.twitter.com/sportisaright/status/1178619997704327168?lang=en

@PoppyMuldoon

Marzipan: On the sex thing I think it’s ridiculous that a lesbian would go with someone who has a penis. Or equally, a gay man go for someone who has a vagina. Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it. I guess there are trans women who stay married to their wives, and might consider it now best described as a lesbian relationship. If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

Seems like your opinions could be labelled transphobic I'm afraid. I'm mean, why wouldn't a woman want to date another woman with a penis??? The woman with a penis is a woman after all. Why should that be the defining factor, especially if you like someone's personality? I mean isn't that just so shallow, discriminatory and transphobic?

*Not sure what the preferred terminology is on the other side of the debate.

Poppy where on earth have you been for the last few years. Yes, it has become social suicide in many instances for a lesbian to say she does not want to have sex with a individual with a penis, regardless of how that individual identifies.

Seriously wake up.

Abusers always have double-standards. He can do and say things that he believes she deserves punishment for if she does or says the exact same thing.

From the description on this thread I was expecting Molatov Cocktails. Dear me.

Barely-concealed disappointment?

@PoppyMuldoon

You are all so consumed by your ridiculous contempt for trans you can’t see that you’re the aggressors. You’re the ones driving this. 80 million people in Britain. 1% maximum of that are trans. Probably lot less. What percentage of the 1% are bad? All of them? I’m presuming some are good. And you really think rapists or predators have put things on hold waiting for self id regulations? Complete hysteria. I thought you were all famous for critical thinking.

You don't appear to think very highly of lesbians. Do you really think that the lesbians at that pride event deserved to be attacked?

If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

And yet you believe any lesbian stating that they are same sex attracted, and being part of Pride, equate to the KKK and deserve to be assaulted and driven out.

What is this? You'll agree women can be gay, but only behind closed doors if they don't talk about it to anyone and don't let anyone find out? And if they do they deserve to be attacked and driven away?

"No one is forcing you to fuck men, lesbians.
But can you shut up about not wanting to, especially at pride, or we'll have no choice but to try and set you on fire."

Every day, the overt anti-lesbian sentiment that vomits out of Genderists seems to get more ridiculous. I keep thinking we must have reached a nadir, and yet there's always someone prepared to say and do something worse.

@YouJustDoYou

did you see the comment "Being a lesbian isn't aboit being attracted to vagina/penis, it's about being attracted to women and women come in all shapes and forms....it's very transmisogynistic"

UnFUCKINGbelievable.

Really. And quite staggeringly misogynistic and homophobic.

Women are entitled to have a sexuality that excludes all biological males. Being gay is not a crime. Having a sexuality that is not attracted to biologically male bodies is not a hate crime.

And no, as a lesbian I'm not attracted to the word 'woman' or the enactment of any stereotypes, I'm attracted to adult human females on the basis of sex. And they come in all shapes and forms and choices about self expression.

It's a staggering act of intolerance to try and stamp out female homosexuality from Gay Pride, and drive them back underground. A movement by male people, for male people.

Lovely to see that now lesbians walking in a PRIDE event are being told that they 'deserved' being threatened by a person with a flare for standing up for their own rights.... This makes a pair with the gay man being assaulted and harassed for wearing a shirt and hat with a logo of the group he believes supports his needs.

And laughing at the person stating that the lesbians deserved it preaching about love and acceptance .... while comparing lesbians who stand up for their own needs as being like the KKK.

@PoppyMuldoon

Marzipan: On the sex thing I think it’s ridiculous that a lesbian would go with someone who has a penis. Or equally, a gay man go for someone who has a vagina. Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it. I guess there are trans women who stay married to their wives, and might consider it now best described as a lesbian relationship. If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

@PoppyMuldoon did you not consider why these lesbians felt the need to protest in the first place? There would be no need if what you said above was the accepted view. In fact, your perfectly reasonable opinion would be considered appalling transphobia by many activists.

Please see here for evidence of many (some well known and respected) activists saying lesbians should consider sex with penises:
terfisaslur.com/cotton-ceiling/

Here is an article by a transwoman who talks about the phenomenon and why she disagrees with it:
medium.com/@mirandayardley/girl-dick-the-cotton-ceiling-and-the-cultural-war-on-lesbians-and-women-c323b4789368

The police are vile. This is unbelievable. Why can they not understand the flare thing symbolises ‘burn the witch’?

To compare lesbians who are openly defending their sexuality from accusations of bigotry to the KKK is really incredible. The KKK want white supremacy and pursue that through extreme actions up to and including the murder of black people.

And to these men, women saying they will never see them as potential sexual partners is about the same, huh? Their behaviour and attitudes could not be more masculine. It's a tale as old as time, certain men have always been furious at lesbians because they're sexually out of bounds and how dare they. Lesbians don't want to hurt men, they just don't want to fuck them and they don't want to be verbally or physically abused for saying so. How is that an unreasonable wish list?

All I see is an aggressive pursuit from one side in this argument. The other side always seem to be minding their own business.

It must be so hard to keep up with the dishonesty here.

How exactly is it 'minding their own business', chasing lesbians with a flare? And it is completely mind blowing to see lesbians walking holding a banner and chanting about what is important to them as being the 'aggressive' ones at anytime. Let alone when then compared with a person pointing and waving a lit flare.

Well.... the hyperbole is what we have come to expect, but it really really takes some mental gymnastics to portray the person with a flare as being anything but an aggressive bully who put women in danger because those women were saying 'no'.

Note to Stonewall/Mermaids/whoever is sending its little emissaries over here:

The very least you can do is make sure they know the basis of their argument. We've had someone here lately who didn't even know what "gender critical" means. Now there's PollyMuldoon who isn't fully aware of the TRA line on "same-sex" versus "same-gender" attraction.

Do better!

Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it

If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

Great, so why are lesbians being thrown off dating apps for saying they're same-sex attracted and want a female partner? Why are they being booted off lesbian forums/reddit etc for saying they're same-sex attracted and are only interested in females?

That's 'yes you're allowed to be a lesbian, but just be quiet about it so you don't hurt the feelings of males'. It's vile homophobia, and it's championed by many in the LGBTQ+ ''community''.

By the way Poppy there's 67 million people in the UK, not 80 million.

Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it

As a parent to of teen, I have to question this. I have seen the result of the tik Tok video where a teenage lesbian felt she had to make videos apologising for saying she did not 'do dicks' and others where young women who are lesbians make videos about how 'uneducated' they were to not accept dicks. Like they sought enlightenment in a commune.

I have seen the affect of this on my teen and their friends. If you cannot understand that this is indirectly coercive, that is on you really.

And yes, we have even had posters who have posted that they were coerced into PIV sex with a male who identified as a lesbian because they were scared to say no. So, I believe them. It is obviously happening, so I am interested who you think it benefits to say that it doesn't happen?

Other lesbians? Young teen lesbians? Young girls?

Either way, your other posts suggest that you are absolutely willing to hand wave away violence from a trans activist directly and explicitly aimed at lesbians and caught on video as being acceptable in some way. So, you have little credibility.

Also, worth reiterating again how soon #MeToo became a distant memory. At one point the progressive types were all 'Yay, full and free consent! Coercion is bad!' and saying how awful it was that women's lives were blighted by unwanted male attention.

Now it's 'Look, they're not physically holding you down, why are you making such a fuss?'

@FloralBunting

Also, worth reiterating again how soon #MeToo became a distant memory. At one point the progressive types were all 'Yay, full and free consent! Coercion is bad!' and saying how awful it was that women's lives were blighted by unwanted male attention.

Now it's 'Look, they're not physically holding you down, why are you making such a fuss?'

This. @FloralBunting

Perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised though. That coercion and abuse happened in very liberal, lovey, film& theatre circles. The ballet world doesn't have a great reputation, and I would say modelling's reputation is even worse, with their weird, creepy star photographers. Hardly the the bastion of conservative, suit & tie, business people. Maybe they're in the background, but the people at the centre of these scandals, who were witness to all that shit were those who would be clambering to be seen as progressive, women-friendly, and left wing, at least in public.

@FloralBunting

"No one is forcing you to fuck men, lesbians. But can you shut up about not wanting to, especially at pride, or we'll have no choice but to try and set you on fire."

Every day, the overt anti-lesbian sentiment that vomits out of Genderists seems to get more ridiculous. I keep thinking we must have reached a nadir, and yet there's always someone prepared to say and do something worse.

It's unbelievable how low they will go FloralBunting, I thought the Genderist/Anti-Fa low had been reached when they attacked sex traffic survivors, but still they persist in reaching low after low after low.

Let's call it for what it is though - it is an all out attack on women whatever their sexual orientation - any chance they get to abuse and attack women they will and enjoy every minute of it and they can always rely on the Poppy's of this world to excuse them, back them up and cheer them on.

Brave New World - same as the old woman hating world, with added extras.