Lesbians attacked with fire at Bordeaux Pride France

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Video of attack: www.facebook.com/112742101041568/posts/151966257119152/

The women from Résistance Lesbienne explain what happened in English: www.facebook.com/GetTheLOutUK/videos/603549947469615/. There were chants of "burn the TERF". The police did nothing to stop the attack and refused to confront the attacker when asked for help by the women, advising them to leave instead.

Tweets bragging about the attack were posted afterwards mobile.twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1437083779969978380.

Did you really just compare lesbians to the KKK?

Screenshooting.

Who was being hostile?
The group claiming trans were dangerous, a threat, whatever.
All I see is an aggressive pursuit from one side in this argument. The other side always seem to be minding their own business.

The one on the right is the attacker: mobile.twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1437376226486886405.

@yourhairiswinterfire

If this is how they treat women in front of a crowd, in front of the police, whilst being filmed, what would they do to a woman when no one is looking?

Chilling

“Turning up with their nasty banners and chants at an event all about love and acceptance seems quite aggressive to me.”

Yeah, in exactly the same league as chasing someone with a fucking flare. 🙄

You are allowed to “support trans rights” but not support this kind of behaviour, btw. I think the banners the Westboro Baptist church has are horrible but I still wouldn’t support violent attacks against them (not that people do tend to use these tactics with the WBC because they are quite scary and not just lesbians peacefully walking about with banners...)

@PoppyMuldoon

Who was being hostile? The group claiming trans were dangerous, a threat, whatever. All I see is an aggressive pursuit from one side in this argument. The other side always seem to be minding their own business.

'Minding their own business' including chasing people with fire.

Noting too, the interesting belief that it's ok to assault people if they say stuff you don't agree with.

Like 'no, my sexuality does not include people born male because I'm a lesbian'. At gay pride.

www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniesarkis/2019/02/25/projection-a-gaslighters-signature-technique/

Whatever the gaslighter/narcissist is or whatever he is doing, he will assign those characteristics or behaviors to you.

Love how you’ve all turned the real aggressors and provocateurs into the innocent victims. Darvo.
Don’t attend the event and stick your face into those you’re campaigning against.
No incident.

did you see the comment "Being a lesbian isn't aboit being attracted to vagina/penis, it's about being attracted to women and women come in all shapes and forms....it's very transmisogynistic"

UnFUCKINGbelievable.

@PoppyMuldoon

Love how you’ve all turned the real aggressors and provocateurs into the innocent victims. Darvo. Don’t attend the event and stick your face into those you’re campaigning against. No incident.

Do you think lesbians should be made to be open to having sex with trans women? Or that they should pretend to be open to the idea to make trans women feel validated? This is what many TRAs are demanding (see the comment about transmisogyny above) and what these lesbians are fighting against.

Does arguing that lesbians ought to have sex with male bodied people not sound a bit like conversion therapy to you? Or at the very least a bit rapey?

In other words -

Yeah lesbians. Don't stick up for your rights, bitches (not even at an events that's supposed to include lesbians). In fact just don't be seen at all, because if you do, you'll have it coming.

Bloody women, sticking their noses into everything, even representing their own rights.

A sufficient paraphrase, oui?

You are all so consumed by your ridiculous contempt for trans you can’t see that you’re the aggressors. You’re the ones driving this. 80 million people in Britain. 1% maximum of that are trans. Probably lot less. What percentage of the 1% are bad? All of them? I’m presuming some are good. And you really think rapists or predators have put things on hold waiting for self id regulations? Complete hysteria. I thought you were all famous for critical thinking.

Lesbians at a Pride event expressing and defending their right to be same sex attracted are the "real aggressors" and therefore it us entirely justifiable to attack them with a flare?

Right you are.

"Hysteria"

Do we have BINGO?

PoppyMuldoon... have you never even heard of the concept of safeguarding?

Also I notice you explicitly exclude Lesbians from Pride which is just bonkers.

lundybancroft.com/five-central-concepts-in-getting-free-from-abuse/

KEY CONCEPT # 2: ABUSERS TELL YOU IT’S YOUR OWN FAULT

An abuser won’t necessarily blame you for every single incident – he may even act very apologetic sometimes — but nonetheless he is determined overall to drum it into you that you’re the real cause of how he acts.

The result is that virtually every abused woman comes to feel that she is at fault. She feels that she pushed the abuser’s buttons, or that she caused him to turn mean, or that it’s her fault because she didn’t leave. All of these messages are the voice of the abuser speaking through her mind.

In reality, nothing an abused woman can do will make the abuser treat her any better. Abusive behavior comes entirely from factors that are internal to the abuser, and not at all from anything about the personality, behavior, or responses of the targeted person.

My central message to the abused person: You are doing nothing – zero – to cause the way you’re being treated. The abuser is 100% responsible for his own behavior. None of what he does is your fault, and you can’t make his behavior change by changing yours.

KEY CONCEPT #3: YES, IT IS THAT BAD

I very often hear targets of abuse saying, “I’m probably making too big a deal about this,” or, “I’m sure I’m blowing this all out of proportion, it’s not really so bad.” This is, again, the voice of the abuser speaking through her; the abuser loves to brainwash the woman to believe that she’s hysterical, that she overreacts, and that she’s unstable. Don’t buy it.

My central message to the abused person: Take your feelings seriously. When someone tells you that you’re overreacting to how they’re treating you, that in itself is a bad sign about them. Trust your own instincts.

PoppyMuldoon

I would like to know what you think about my questions above, I think your answers might be interesting.

I have no issues with trans people, just some of the arguments made by the more misogynistic “trans rights” activists. I.e the cotton ceiling.

But lesbians were there. Supporting trans. Again, you talk as if all lesbians agree with you. Which is far from the case.

@WomaninBoots

Lesbians at a Pride event expressing and defending their right to be same sex attracted are the "real aggressors" and therefore it us entirely justifiable to attack them with a flare?

Right you are.

As far as arguments for welcoming them into women's spaces go, I've definitely heard more convincing ones.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn

indeed.

Marzipan: On the sex thing I think it’s ridiculous that a lesbian would go with someone who has a penis. Or equally, a gay man go for someone who has a vagina.
Nobody is forcing anyone though - are they? I mean literally making you do it.
I guess there are trans women who stay married to their wives, and might consider it now best described as a lesbian relationship.
If you don’t want to date someone who’s trans - fine. Not compulsory.

It's amazing isn't it that words have become literal violence but actual violence is acceptable? 🤔

@WomaninBoots

"Hysteria"

Do we have BINGO?

BINGO

When someone says 'hysteria' in relation to assertive women or women complaining for their own rights, it usually says so much about the person's attitude towards women.

Also throw in 'silly' and 'ridiculous' and 'crazy'.

"One does not need to be against women's suffrage", the London Times editorialized in 1908, "to see that some of the more violent partisans of that cause are suffering from hysteria. We use the word not with any scientific precision, but because it is the name most commonly given to a kind of enthusiasm that has degenerated into habitual nervous excitement."'
— Gilman

www.stylist.co.uk/visible-women/misogynists-anti-suffragette-illustrations-stop-women-win-vote-history-features/187998

When on 11 June 1914 the House of Commons discussed methods of dealing with hunger-striking militants, treating them as lunatics was amongst the options considered. Reginald McKenna, the Home Secretary, agreed that suffragettes were “hysterical fanatics”, but rejected the lunatic suggestion because his earlier attempts to get women certified as insane failed when doctors would not co-operate. (The other options considered were to let the prisoners die (“the most popular”, remarked McKenna), deport them, or give them the franchise (this was greeted with “Hear, hear, and laughter”).

francesca-scriblerus.blogspot.com/2013/07/were-suffragettes-insane.html

That seems a bit trans-exclusionary, PoppyMuldoon.

Sorry, meant to say women campaigning although 'complaining' will do too I suppose XD