Poll in Scotland. Please write to MSPs and share.

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-out-of-step-on-trans-law-says-poll-h068jwqz9?shareToken=2130a470080c4af4112359e13e0ee20e

Seemingly Nicola Sturgeon and Patrick Harvie have spent too much time listening to the glitter family in their bunkers. Their scramble to show how progressive they are turns out to be really rather unpopular.

As we are in real danger of this dangerous nonsense becoming law in Scotland, please can I ask that you share this far and wide.

"Feminist critics have argued that the transgender reform would put women at risk and that the Scottish government should follow Boris Johnson’s decision to drop similar legislation at Westminster over concerns about the effect on children."

How are birth certificates "dangerous"? No one carries their birth certificate with them nor does it have any real day to day use. What are the concerns about birth certificates and children? Did it give them paper cuts? Choking hazard? Slip hazard?
Also someone please explain how a birth certificate puts anyone at risk?
Anyone care to share their experience of how someone else's birth certificate put them at risk.

Thanks, OP. Will be putting together a letter to my representatives today.

Have already emailed my constituency MSP, will do list MSPs this week.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

FYI anaily

www.parliament.scot/msps

www.theyworkforyou.com

Links for email addresses

As we are in real danger of this dangerous nonsense becoming law in Scotland, please can I ask that you share this far and wide

I'm more concerned about the masses of other dangerous nonsense being peddled by the SNP.

@anaily

"Feminist critics have argued that the transgender reform would put women at risk and that the Scottish government should follow Boris Johnson’s decision to drop similar legislation at Westminster over concerns about the effect on children."

How are birth certificates "dangerous"? No one carries their birth certificate with them nor does it have any real day to day use. What are the concerns about birth certificates and children? Did it give them paper cuts? Choking hazard? Slip hazard?
Also someone please explain how a birth certificate puts anyone at risk?
Anyone care to share their experience of how someone else's birth certificate put them at risk.

The same way any kind of identification document with falsehoods on it puts other people at risk.

Dangerous nonsense affecting 51% of the population not important enough?

@334bu

Dangerous nonsense affecting 51% of the population not important enough?

The GRA reforms are the least of the SNP's dangerous idiocies.

It would certainly be higher than 51%, or are children factored into that percentage?

Why , out of all the SNP's dangerous and damaging policies, and shambolic running of Scotland is this one getting singled out?

I find it quite annoying that I'm now being lectured at by feminists that I must oppose this, when it wasn’t that long ago that the same feminists were lauding Sturgeon.

I got my first passport a few years back. The process I was put through to confirm that I was the real Purgatory, and I wasn't someone posing as me to eliminate identity fraud, was meticulous. The final part was an in-person interview with a complete stranger who lobbed off-the-wall questions at me for an interminable amount of time.

Presumably it was to stop me giving someone a paper cut with my new passport. Odd precaution, seeing as it has rounded corners, but anyway. Very kind of the passport office to worry.

I'm not sure that writing to my MSPs will have an effect, given that they have largely ignored my previous letters. I think that public demonstrations and public awareness raising.

I saw on Twitter that one of the grassroots women's groups were on the streets in Ayr and that the response was generally 1) supportive or 2) previously unaware but concerned. I think this is what it is going to take. The media are not covering it it adequately to move people to concern.

Don't support it then KimikosNightmare. Noone is forcing you to.

But this is a feminist board and it is an issue that feminists, (and some women who don't called themselves feminist) are concerned with.

That doesn't answer how birth certificates are dangerous.

I didn't get a reply from my SNP MSP regarding the Lamont amendment. However, the SNP changed their position and voted for the amendment, so perhaps we shouldn't give up sending these emails even if we receive no reply.

Thanks 334bu but without identifying myself, I can say that my MSPS are unlikely to be moved.

@KimikosNightmare

Why , out of all the SNP's dangerous and damaging policies, and shambolic running of Scotland is this one getting singled out?

I find it quite annoying that I'm now being lectured at by feminists that I must oppose this, when it wasn’t that long ago that the same feminists were lauding Sturgeon.

You're on a feminist board, and you're on a thread about this particular issue.

@MiladyBerserko

Thanks 334bu but without identifying myself, I can say that my MSPS are unlikely to be moved.

Milady I know for sure that my SNP MSPs will give not one shiny shit about my views on the matter (or anyone else's either, really) but they need to know how constituents feel.

This is a vote loser.

The vast majority of voters think it's irrelevant at best, damaging at worst.

Elected representatives are supposed to represent their constituents. That's part of their job.

From a London-centric Englishwoman's POV, what I read about NS and her government (admittedly in biased London-centric media) is that she's gone batshit for this when the ordinary Scot doesn't GAF. This poll confirms it. There isn't a mandate, or enough public interest, for her to keep pursuing this. Like Scottish Independence

The vast majority of voters think it's irrelevant at best, damaging at worst

I think it's largely irrelevant.

The only MSPs who are likely to listen to you are the Scottish Conservatives. If the Scottish Conservatives somehow managed to get the SNP to drop this, what good does that do? There's plenty more lunatic policies and mismanagement for the SNP to carry on with. Or is that all you (general you) want? Ditch GRA reform and it's all lovely?

Frankly, if this particular idiocy is losing them some support, then crack on with it.

I do want the end of GRA reform, yes. That's why I am on a feminist board talking about it.

You don't care about that, yet you are on a feminist board telling feminists that you are fed up with them talking about it. Who is lecturing who, exactly?

@MiladyBerserko

I do want the end of GRA reform, yes. That's why I am on a feminist board talking about it.

You don't care about that, yet you are on a feminist board telling feminists that you are fed up with them talking about it. Who is lecturing who, exactly?

I see only opinions agreeing with the concensus are permitted. I'm a woman living in Scotland. GRA reform is the least of my concerns in relation to the authoritarian, incompetent, hypocritical and delusional SNP government.

Does dropping GRA reform wipe the slate on everything else?

You are perfectly entitled to think that GRA reform is way down the list of priorities. Other women don't but really, on a board called 'Sex and Gender debate' is it really a surprise to find such women here?

I do agree with you on the SNP generally but I also think the GRA is an imminent risk to women and children. You don't have to agree.

I see only opinions agreeing with the concensus are permitted.

Oh stop being so daft, this thread is talking about this particular issue you have joined this thread seemingly to dismiss this issue and get on your soapbox about everything else.

I'm a woman living in Scotland. GRA reform is the least of my concerns in relation to the authoritarian, incompetent, hypocritical and delusional SNP government.

Well jolly good for you that this is the least of your concerns considering the authoritarian nature of said reforms.

Does dropping GRA reform wipe the slate on everything else?

Has anybody said it does? If you want to air your grievances about every single SNP Policy and everything they do that you dislike why not start a thread in the Politics or Scottish section to do just that? The one particular issue under discussion here is a feminist issue therefore being rightly discussed under the correct topic. No interest to you? Scroll on by and stop derailing this thread on this one issue with all your particular hobby horses.