Sonia Appleby has been awarded damages

[flowerpootle]

It's in The Times. With this and Wi Spa I feel like the house of cards is falling...

Gender identity clinic whistleblower wins damages for ‘vilification’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0f17622c-0da0-11ec-8be5-c970b7541460?shareToken=1b12651b6fe1f39a862e3020bcc6f2a5

I wonder if this comes under the remit of Vicky Ford, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Children and Families at the Department for Education. More likely to be Sajiid Javid and I can't find a specific minister

@LizzieSiddal

Such fantastic news!

I’m disappointed that in The Times article, Polly Carmichael is not mentioned, I wonder if she is in the ruling? Her evidence to the tribunal was quite bizarre.

Yes, Polly Carmichael features heavily in the ruling, and not in a positive way: drive.google.com/file/d/1JNpwp5aDrVwAe1VcG6vSxqVRouO1bdZ_/view

Oh fantastic news! Well done Sonia. A brave and principled woman if ever there was one.
I'm glad I contributed to her crowdfunder,its shameful that the NHS forced her into having to go to a tribunal for purely doing her job.

There is finally a (very good) article about this on the BBC. Thing is, it seems completely hidden.

I've put a thread about how hard it is to find here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4341610-How-BBC-news-articles-work?watched=1

Please feel free to explain if I'm being dumb, either way the article is worth a read.

Yes, Polly Carmichael features heavily in the ruling, and not in a positive way:
drive.google.com/file/d/1JNpwp5aDrVwAe1VcG6vSxqVRouO1bdZ_/view

Thanks you for posting the link Stella. It will be interesting to watch what happens next at the Tavi. After this ruling where their main Safeguarding lead was sidelined, so that children were not being safeguarded, numerous clinicians resigning and a damming inspection report, how the heck is PC still in their job? It’s an absolute scandal.

If a school gets safeguarding wrong they they instantly "fail" their Ofsted and get put into a category that requires improvement ,That's how seriously safeguarding in schools is viewed.
Yet this exceptionally vulnerable group of children are being treated by a service already identified as having significant problems and now evidenced failures in safeguarding practice but nothing seems to happen?

The NHS is currently reviewing GIDS. I assume this will feed into it?

What's the scope of the review, and does it have any teeth, does anyone know?

Very long twitter thread breaking down the details of the judgement.

twitter.com/JLCederblom/status/1434844646287552517

[quote OvaHere]Very long twitter thread breaking down the details of the judgement.

twitter.com/JLCederblom/status/1434844646287552517[/quote]
That was very helpful, thank you.

Brilliant news. I am so sorry for her that she has had to go through this awful situation, but I am so grateful to her for her bravery and determination to see it through. Thanks to her many children’s future lives will be so much better and less distressing.

You are a queen among women Sonia.

cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Letter-to-NHSEI_Dr-Hilary-Cass_Independent-Review.pdf

This is a letter from Dr Hilary Cass to John Stewart, National Director
Specialised Commissioning, NHS England and NHS Improvement. Dr Cass says her interim report will be out during the summer with the full report next year. Anyone seen anything.

When I read this letter, I was staggered by the total lack of anything like quality from, GIDS and they wonder why everyone was horrified. Dr Cass is having plenty of discussions with stakeholders, which, apart from young people with gender dysphoria, is bound to include Mermaids and I think their links to Gendered Intelligence are highly suspect. Cass requires lots of evidence, so any flim-flam shouldn't be tolerated. Fingers crossed

@highame

cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Letter-to-NHSEI_Dr-Hilary-Cass_Independent-Review.pdf

This is a letter from Dr Hilary Cass to John Stewart, National Director
Specialised Commissioning, NHS England and NHS Improvement. Dr Cass says her interim report will be out during the summer with the full report next year. Anyone seen anything.

When I read this letter, I was staggered by the total lack of anything like quality from, GIDS and they wonder why everyone was horrified. Dr Cass is having plenty of discussions with stakeholders, which, apart from young people with gender dysphoria, is bound to include Mermaids and I think their links to Gendered Intelligence are highly suspect. Cass requires lots of evidence, so any flim-flam shouldn't be tolerated. Fingers crossed

Hopefully they were waiting for this judgement and the interim report will be out soon... fingers crossed...

That Twitter thread is well worth a read - here if you have trouble accessing Twitter
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1434844646287552517.html

I found the live tribunal a little confusing but this has helped a great deal.

It's horrific that children have been mutilated and endochrologically damaged by a bunch of lazy thinkers who sought their own bizarre validation through an illogical ideology. All within the NHS. Despite years of public warnings.

Sonia Appleby deserves a safeguarding award.

Yes, Polly Carmichael features heavily in the ruling, and not in a positive way:
drive.google.com/file/d/1JNpwp5aDrVwAe1VcG6vSxqVRouO1bdZ_/view

Sonia was treated appallingly.

The attitude to and vilification of her by Garry Richardson and Dr Sinah is nothing short of bullying, nasty pieces of work the pair of them. The Judge certainly and quite rightly ripped both of them to shreds in the Judgement.

Let's just remember that Sonia's remit was to safeguard children and this is how she was treated and people wonder why there are so many hideous child abuse scandals in institutions that are meant to protect them, the attitude of those from GIDS criticised in the Judgement is why. Learnt lessons from previous scandals? Obviously not.

Re: the Cass Review. I've been thinking about the NHS and NICE.

NHS staff have been using their pronouns in their email signatures for so long that they scarcely register.

Within the last month, I've noticed that NICE staff are using them.

I know that people are entirely capable of disregarding their own beliefs and delivering work that is impartial. I should think that both NICE and NHS staff also have to declare any COI or DOI in a topic when they work on it and in any meetings.

I'm wondering if the relevant staff have declared their belief in gender ideology as part of the COI or DOI for their work on this, particularly if they have a role in data collection or technical analysis.

I'm conflicted. I'd rather that they didn't ask people to state a belief or stance on this issue but I wonder if putting pronouns in the email signature etc. is taking a stance, IYSWIM.

NB: I don't know anything about the NHS or NICE's involvement in the Cass Review.

NHS staff have been using their pronouns in their email signatures for so long that they scarcely register.

Within the last month, I've noticed that NICE staff are using them.

Every time I read a statement of this type, I feel another sense of shock that this has been so widely normalised. Are these groups heavily political in other things?

I guess to many outsiders, this would seem like a harmless, if odd, anomaly. It’s only when you see what’s happening legally that you realise it’s not harmless at all, but a sign of capitulation to an extreme ideological position.

This was just covered on Newsnight. I only caught the end of it.

Every time I read a statement of this type, I feel another sense of shock that this has been so widely normalised. Are these groups heavily political in other things?

NICE by default deals with a lot of political topics as part of its health and social care effectiveness work. NICE is currently in the midst of a political contretemps about the ME/CFS guidelines.

I'm loth for anyone to be cross examined as to whether their email signature is a carefully thought through political position or just something they adopted through preference falsification or #BeKind.

However, Caesar's Wife and Nolan principles prod me to think that it doesn't sit well with the appearance of impartiality if both the NHS and NICE have something that is a signal of tacit endorsement of this ideology. To me it highlights that both have cultures that condone compelled speech or some of the more dubious Stonewall Champion/Workplace Index practices.

I've just seen the piece about the NHS training on Glinner's substack and it's made me very uneasy. I've no idea what sort of training NICE provides for its staff.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/how-vital-nhs-funds-are-being-spent

@Hazycoffeek

This was just covered on Newsnight. I only caught the end of it.

The Newsnight piece was good and the report after it was excellent about the new abortion law in Texas , I think Emily Matiss would have liked to punch the smug misogynist bastard she interviewed. I think it will be on the BBC player

It’s online now:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000zhjx/newsnight-06092021

The segment is round about the 25.30 mark. Anna Hutchinson was good.

I find it mind boggling that between the Bell judgement, the awful CQC report and now this, the Tavi are just doubling down and/or burying their heads in the sand. Why would any parent concerned about their gender distressed/dysphoric child take them to the Tavi?

I really hope Dinesh Sinha goes soon. I’ve watched him the the Board meetings and he comes across exactly as he comes across in the Appleby ruling: cold, process driven, controlling, dismissive. He seems to be the backbone to a lot of this but none of the focus ever seems to be on him.

He is a psychiatrist with an MBA. Figures.

Here's his public Tavi bio:
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"Dinesh Sinha
Medical Director

Dinesh Sinha joined the Trust in August 2018.

He has significant experience in the health service having held board level and senior leadership roles, including within his most recent trust and clinical commissioning organisations (CCGs).

He was previously associate medical director, head of service and consultant psychiatrist in psychotherapy at East London NHS Foundation Trust. He has held roles on several CCG governing bodies and continues to be involved in commissioning of health services.

Dinesh is a fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists and holds an MBA from Lancaster University Management School. He brings senior leadership experience and strategic focus in the delivery of high quality services."

He wrote this 8 years ago. Oh the irony of him becoming what he warned against.

www.hsj.co.uk/commissioning/lay-members-make-stronger-transparent-ccg-boards/5064089.article

The Peter Principle:
people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their "maximum level of incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent
Though in the public sector where it is difficult to get rid of people, one way you can is to get them promoted away from your team.

So my reading is out of spite GIDS decided to ignore safeguarding of children rather than accept Sonia's input.