'The Guardian has found itself defending a sex-offender's right to expose themselves to children'

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Shameful incoherent, poorly-referenced, completely biased piece of journalism from the Guardian

The quote in the title is from Dave Hewitt's essay published today;

The Guardian's Ideological dead-end

As you can likely guess, he eviscerates The Guardian, and leaves its rotting carcase out-in-the-sun for the vultures to pick over.

Quite simply, Guardian readers have once again been fed a pack of Alex Jones-style falsehoods, this time over the Wi-Spa scandal. As usual, LOJ contributed to the attempts to hoodwink the readership, and for the most part it seemed to have worked. Until Andy Ngo exposed the entire rotting falsehood in what has proven to be the journalistic scoop-of-the-year to date.

Hewitt details how The Guardian's world-view has seen it simply unable to present itself as a reliable news source, with it now peddling deliberate falsehoods and fake-news, in much the same way the right-wing press in the US is accused of. The Guardian though has gone further in its commitment to falsehood; all the complainants in the Wi-Spa scandal were Black women, so The Guardian had determined to deprive those women of their legitimate voices - a fundamentally racist act.

I'm not sure what the owners of The Guardian - The Scott Trust, have as a business model. Hoping that the readership and subscribers are easily or willingly fooled by whatever lies the hacks write doesn't seem to be a long-term strategy. That though is precisely where The Guardian is today, having abandoned facts are sacred as a creed, replaced with lies are paramount.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

OJ :

the liberation of trans people – and indeed LGBTQ people as a whole – will free everyone. For example, a strengthened welfare state and solved housing crisis would provide a trans person rejected by their family with desperately needed independence; but those benefits would help anyone in need of security. The biggest killer of men under 45 is suicide: freeing them from rigid gender norms, which teach them to believe that opening up about their problems is unmanly or “gay”, will make them more likely to seek support.

How odd. Women's liberation was founded upon those demands and rejected. Is OJ now telling us that those demands are somehow more reasonable and actionable coming from Shon Faye? And overlooking that the cost of this for women will be that they'll never be able to discuss the material reality of a sexed body, that they'll be denied the use of shared language and shared spaces with others who share that material reality? That, there will still be a sex caste in which the material reality of a sexed body determines your position and power/vulnerability?

Removal of all the rights women have on the basis of sex, and even the ability to name and discuss ourselves as a sex class, is liberation - because it helps men, whatever gender identity they have. And that's all that matters.

Thanks, Owen. Always good when you say the quiet part out loud.

@donquixotedelamancha

The latest Guardian article still says the complainant at the spa was using transphobic language.

The only thing I can think, from the video, is that she kept calling the convicted sex offender with his cock out a man.

Shocking, isn't it. How dare women and girls subjected to male sexual abuse, from a male sexual abuser who has been predating on women and girls for at last 20 years, call that male sexual abuser a man!

His feelings might be hurt. And that's far more important than the women and little girls, whom he accessed naked in a single sex environment in order to expose himself, and whose distress was making his dick hard.

First they said it never happened and it was hateful to say that it had. Now it's proven to have happened, they say it's hateful to refuse to pretend that a male criminal, with male patterned sex offending, is a woman.

At what point do people start to see women subjected to men's violence as full human beings? Because so far, the answer appears to be 'only when it's politically useful'. The left claim to care about abortion rights, while doing the shit above. The right claim to care about the above, while removing abortion rights.

All I see are a bunch of misogynists. And I'm pretty fucking sick of them.

The Guardian forced Suzanne Moore to resign didn't it?

@KaptainKaveman

The Guardian forced Suzanne Moore to resign didn't it?

I think the letter Owen Jones put together and got hundreds of people to sign, calling her hateful, probably counts as creating a hostile workplace environment, yes.

The stupid thing is that she supports the rights of trans people, as all decent people should. She also supports the separate rights of women as a definable sex class, also as all decent people should. But that's hateful, in the eyes of men who hate women, and the women who pander to them.

the liberation of trans people – and indeed LGBTQ people as a whole – will free everyone. For example, a strengthened welfare state and solved housing crisis would provide a trans person rejected by their family with desperately needed independence; but those benefits would help anyone in need of security. The biggest killer of men under 45 is suicide: freeing them from rigid gender norms, which teach them to believe that opening up about their problems is unmanly or “gay”, will make them more likely to seek support.

How do you free men from the damaging rigid gender norms by creating an ideology which says that being a man is a very distinct experience from being a woman? That is, in fact, reinforcing those damaging stereotypes. To have to be a woman in order to be unmanly is exactly the problem and definitely not the solution.

Someone on here once said: women used to have to do the washing up. Then, briefly, anyone could do the washing up. And now, we're told that anyone who does the washing up must be a woman.

This is not progress. It's barking mad that anyone claims otherwise.

Shocking, isn't it. How dare women and girls subjected to male sexual abuse, from a male sexual abuser who has been predating on women and girls for at last 20 years, call that male sexual abuser a man!

I'm not shocked anymore, just coldly angry. I want this self ID bollocks killed stone dead in the UK.

Incidents like this are horrid but as long as we keep highlighting them, and keep discussing the public policy implications over and over, all they are doing is making the case for us.

How do you free men from the damaging rigid gender norms by creating an ideology which says that being a man is a very distinct experience from being a woman? That is, in fact, reinforcing those damaging stereotypes.

Stop using logic, it's colonialist and fascist or something.

Shocking, isn't it. How dare women and girls subjected to male sexual abuse, from a male sexual abuser who has been predating on women and girls for at last 20 years, call that male sexual abuser a man!

His feelings might be hurt. And that's far more important than the women and little girls, whom he accessed naked in a single sex environment in order to expose himself, and whose distress was making his dick hard.

First they said it never happened and it was hateful to say that it had. Now it's proven to have happened, they say it's hateful to refuse to pretend that a male criminal, with male patterned sex offending, is a woman.

At what point do people start to see women subjected to men's violence as full human beings? Because so far, the answer appears to be 'only when it's politically useful'. The left claim to care about abortion rights, while doing the shit above. The right claim to care about the above, while removing abortion rights.

All I see are a bunch of misogynists. And I'm pretty fucking sick of them.

@wellbehavedwomen

Absolutely this, so well said. Thank you.

Shocking, isn't it. How dare women and girls subjected to male sexual abuse, from a male sexual abuser who has been predating on women and girls for at last 20 years, call that male sexual abuser a man!

His feelings might be hurt. And that's far more important than the women and little girls, whom he accessed naked in a single sex environment in order to expose himself, and whose distress was making his dick hard.

Repeat ad infinitum for any bad deed committed by someone claiming gender privileges - Genderist will always focus on what pronouns you use for the person. They could be a sex offender, a child abuser, coercing lesbians for sex, doesn't matter. Did you misgender? If you did every other complaint is invalid.