BY A FOUR-TO-ONE MARGIN, CANADIANS BELIEVE TRANSGENDER ATHLETES’ PARTICIPATION IN WOMEN’S SPORT IS “UNFAIR”: NEW MLI POLL

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This leading Canadian think tank has reported today. I haven't read it as it's just been published, but thought I would share anyway. The opening para reads:

OTTAWA, ON (August 4, 2021): New polling conducted on behalf of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute reveals significant findings regarding Canadians’ views on gender identity and women’s sport. By wide margins, Canadians support traditional sex-based categories for competitive sport, and they believe that allowing transgender athletes who were born male but who identify as women to compete in women’s competitive events is “unfair.”

www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/gender-womens-sports-poll/

The institute is holding a webinar 4pm ET today do discuss the poll (think that's around 10pm GMT):

Considering its Canada, land of gender woo, I'm quite surprised by the margin.

Crikey. Me, too. Surprised, I mean. One would have thought your average Canadian was right behind all the woo.

Perhaps it's a bit like the UK. Nobody outside the liberal policy makers and policy influencers like Stonewall believe this crap.

Your title is incorrect OP. It’s not transgender athletes in women’s sports being called unfair- transmen are perfectly acceptable in women’s sports- it’s transwomen in women’s sports that are considered unfair.

I've used the title in the attached link to the MLI's report. Those are the MLI's chosen words.

It’s still incorrect.

Wow, I wonder if they will do similar regarding the mixed prisons too?

@MotionActivatedDog

It’s still incorrect.

I suggest you let the MLI know, then.

I’m letting you know, because you posted it, in your thread title.

I mean, you do realise it is inaccurate?

I couldn't help myself once, at a child's birthday party, the dad of one of my child's friends is a Canadian who works at the BBC. The temptation was too hard to resist so I (lightly and within context about general talk about stuff) broached the subject of Canadian cyclist RMcK.

His reply was typically woke. "Oh it's oh so veh complicated..,. It depends.... You need to think about the vulnerable minority" my faith in Canadian BBC workers went out the window.

Glad to hear the rest of Canada are joining the dots.

19:44MotionActivatedDog

OP is basically sharing info and using words used by the source. No need for hard time.

I’m not giving anyone a hard time. I’m pointing out that the thread title is incorrect. This language matters. Transgender does not just mean transwoman.

Read my opening post. I have not read the report. It has just been published. I posted it for the interest of people who read this board, not to endorse its accuracy. I used the think tank's own title. I don't know if they are correct or if you are correct, because I haven't read it.

Even in your OP it confirms they are talking about male transgender athletes and not all transgender athletes.

I'm not really surprised that ordinary people know what a woman is. The gender identity stuff is astroturfed, just like it is here. That's one of the reasons for #NoDebate and so-called 'hate speech' laws. Ordinary people can't be allowed to express these views

As a Canadian this doesn't surprise me. Most people, if they see what is actually being done, know that sports, prisons, etc are seriously wrong.

Very few know what's going on though. The mainstream media won't cover it.

In general the problem on the side of the public is that they are low key people, who tend to assume that others, including their leaders, are acting in good faith, and they tend not to stick their nose in the business of others.

Many would be deeply shocked to find out how the media has been copromises. Many people have a real trust in the CBC still, the same kind you see, or used to see, for the BBC, and maybe more so really as the CBC until quite recently was much more regionally embedded and locally oriented.

There is very little alternative media in Canada - there are for example only two national newspapers, and only a few real provincial ones with their own staff in each province, largely owned by the same groups. The population is just so much smaller and more spread out.

@MotionActivatedDog

Even in your OP it confirms they are talking about male transgender athletes and not all transgender athletes.

Please therefore contact the MLI and tell them their title and their opening paragraph are not accurate in your opinion. One more (and one last) time: I have not read the report. I don't know if the stat in the title and the opening para summary refer to the same data garnered from the same question. I have posted for information only, not to endorse the accuracy of what is written, so stop addressing your problem with what they have written to me.

@MotionActivatedDog

Even in your OP it confirms they are talking about male transgender athletes and not all transgender athletes.

Will you give it a rest ffs.

I have addressed it. It’s done. I addressed it with you for the reason I have explained. Perhaps read before sharing in future. You’re responsible for what you post.

Will you give it a rest ffs.

Worst. Derail. Ever.

In a lot of forums putting the title of the article you are posting in the heading is considered obligatory.

I'm not in the slightest bit surprised at this. If policy makers ever consulted ordinary people - especially women - there would be no men self identifying as women in hospital wards, women's prisons, changing rooms, showers, dormitories, refuges, sports or anywhere where women gather for women only company. It wouldn't happen.
There are no women anywhere in the world who seek to be undressed / vulnerable in front of unknown men - no matter how they present.

People recognise this for what it is - deliberate intrusion and erosion of women and girls privacy, safety and dignity.