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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good to see the California Prison service is taking their responsibilities seriously (much sarcasm)

48 replies

dyslek · 16/07/2021 20:03

www.womensliberationfront.org/news/ca-womens-prisons-anticipate-pregnancy-sb123?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=dfc33ec2-36d1-4bf2-9dc4-e69a7bdbcdd3

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Whatwouldscullydo · 17/07/2021 08:43

Well when the MOJ released the report that FPFW have on theor websites, well.basicalky it just comes right out and admits that its purely for validation purposes. They apparently need the association with the women. All the other points could have been achieved in Theale Estate.

They don't care

Whatwouldscullydo · 17/07/2021 08:45

The male estate

PurpleHoodie · 17/07/2021 08:46

Transgender wings need to be in the appropriate sex-segregated areas.

Trans females (Transmen) in women's prisons.

Trans males (transwomen) in mens prisons.

Mrsjamin · 17/07/2021 08:47

Just sickening, how can anyone be OK with this?

PurpleHoodie · 17/07/2021 08:54

Well when the MOJ released the report that FPFW have on their websites, well.basicalky it just comes right out and admits that its purely for validation purposes.

They don't give a shit about women locked up.

But the overwhelming majority of us are not locked up. Neither are the majority of men who also hate nonces.

The influencer/political/newscaster men - and women - pushing for men to be put in women's prisons, closed off areas, and homes are those full of nonsense.

Whatwouldscullydo · 17/07/2021 08:56

And let's not forget about how one of the men behind one if these policies in Scotland and well what happened there.....

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 17/07/2021 08:57

Follow the link to Wolf petition. We need to show solidarity with our American sisters.

PurpleHoodie · 17/07/2021 09:00

Whatwouldscullydo

And let's not forget about how one of the men behind one if these policies in Scotland and well what happened there.....

What happened there What?

Masdintle · 17/07/2021 09:25

I think I'd be putting myself in solitary. But of course behaving in a way that would get you solitary would lengthen your sentence as you wouldn't be eligible for early release.

Probably all the wrong terminology, I know nothing about prison except from tv dramas

ScreamingMeMe · 17/07/2021 09:30

From the LA Times. It seems even sometrans people have concerns about this.

www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-05/california-prisons-consider-gender-identity-housing-requests

AfternoonToffee · 17/07/2021 10:08

Just reading Abigail Sheir's book, it is of no surprise that this is California, this is just another of their nothing but trans matter policies.

Tibtom · 17/07/2021 11:06

[quote ScreamingMeMe]From the LA Times. It seems even sometrans people have concerns about this.

www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-05/california-prisons-consider-gender-identity-housing-requests[/quote]
We see the same here with some so-called feminist allies - transwomen should stayout of women's spaces but not me as I am special.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 17/07/2021 13:13

I an on here to start a thread on this topic - it's disgraceful.

There is a petition to try to stop males being transferred to the female estate - apologies if someone has already posted it.

womensliberationfront.salsalabs.org/petition-end-sb-132-demands-ca/index.html?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=dfc33ec2-36d1-4bf2-9dc4-e69a7bdbcdd3

People outside the US can sign.

Effectively judges are sentencing many women to X years of rape and intimidation.

This is the comment I added.
"Prisoners should housed in regard to their BIOLOGICAL SEX, not their gender identity, which is not identifiable, quantifiable or verifiable.

So many women in the prison system are vulnerable, and a huge proportion have been victims of abusive men in the past - it is shameful and unspeakably cruel to force them to share cells and facilities with genitally intact men who claim to be women (and usually "lesbians").

It adds an extra, unacceptable layer of punishment to incarceration."

WhatyoutalkingaboutWillis · 17/07/2021 13:20

That article has made me weep!

Pudmyboy · 17/07/2021 18:23

If this horror goes ahead, I hope the women who become pregnant are able to sue for a lifetime of financial support for a child that came about due to the lack of safeguarding. Including therapy as already posted.

Pudmyboy · 17/07/2021 18:25

As I fear only when it is seen to have a financial cost will it be addressed. Emotional, physical, psychological: no-one in power seems bothered.

highame · 17/07/2021 19:26

ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule119 The Geneva Convention Practice Relating to Rule 119. Accommodation for Women Deprived of Their Liberty. Article 97. Commit an offence in a war and you are better protected than in California

highame · 17/07/2021 19:28

Posted too soon.....
and if, in California your prison guard is trans, that's a lose lose

DevonTF · 17/07/2021 19:46

womensliberationfront.salsalabs.org/petition-end-sb-132-demands-ca/index.html

Please sign the petition. We all need to join together so they hear our voice

ArabellaScott · 17/07/2021 19:56

Does anyone care that we are being forced to house with 6’2, 250+ lbs men with penises that are here for brutally raping women? We have been warned by the officials in this prison, more are coming with worse charges. Where is the safety concern for us. If we say we are in fear, we are the ones locked up.”

Quote from a prisoner.

This is unconscionable.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/07/2021 10:04

Li'l bump . . .

Redapplewreath · 20/07/2021 10:53

I really am done now with colluding with the illusion that it is possible for a biological male to change sex. This is what it leads to for women, this is where 'kindness' has got us.

No. Biological male people in the biologically male estate, and diversify that estate all male people want. Female people are not subhuman props in male people's lives.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 20/07/2021 14:16

Tibtom
We see the same here with some so-called feminist allies - transwomen should stayout of women's spaces but not me as I am special.

Yes, I think I know who you mean and they are nauseating. The exceptionalism is ridiculous. It's almost as if they enjoy gaslighting us, and some women lap it up and tell them how grateful we all are.

This person is part of the problem, not the solution.

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