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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Corrin daily mail

61 replies

Aprilinspringtimeshower · 06/07/2021 13:43

Has anyone seen this- the photo certainly seem to glamourise chest binding. I’m really shocked even allowing for it being daily Mail- how do you get them to take down pictures
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9758967/Emma-Corrin-recalls-buying-binder-details-intimate-journey.html

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Siblingquandary · 06/07/2021 13:47

It's all a bit heroin chic.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 06/07/2021 13:53

What do you think leaving the photos up will do to the world?

Aprilinspringtimeshower · 06/07/2021 14:10

@MolyHolyGuacamole

What do you think leaving the photos up will do to the world?
Influence young girls to do the same? Make it normalised? Chest binding is not normal or acceptable- it’s barbaric. They wouldn’t show picture of FGM fgs …
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Siblingquandary · 06/07/2021 14:11

@MolyHolyGuacamole

What do you think leaving the photos up will do to the world?
Same sort of thing thinspo does for anorexic people.
MolyHolyGuacamole · 06/07/2021 16:00

same sort of thing thinspo does for anorexic people

  • Anorexic people are ill.

Influence young girls to do the same?

  • do you think reading about homosexuality influences others to be gay? Fair enough if you don't agree with Trans ideology (as breast binding is part of), but the idea that exposure will influence young people to follow is dangerous.
WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 06/07/2021 16:06

What is this if it isn't dysphoria?
It's either dysphoria or attention seeking

SirSamuelVimes · 06/07/2021 16:10

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

Sexual attraction / orientation is not.
Trans / non-binary identification is.
Anorexia & bulimia are.
Self harming is.

ScreamingMeMe · 06/07/2021 16:11

- Anorexic people are ill.

Yeah, no shit. Do you not think "pro ana" sites might make them worse?

BaggoMcoys · 06/07/2021 16:18

you think reading about homosexuality influences others to be gay? Fair enough if you don't agree with Trans ideology (as breast binding is part of), but the idea that exposure will influence young people to follow is dangerous.

It's not unheard of for young people to copy things they see famous people do. The article and announcement don't seem to give any information about the potential harms and risks of breast binding. I know the comparison has been made many times, but had this woman come out in support of breast ironing I'm quite sure her views would have been widely condemned and presented in a context that included the harm caused. The breast binding story however, is presented in a celebratory, and even glamorous way, and that is something that will inspire others.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2021 16:35
  • do you think reading about homosexuality influences others to be gay

Ridiculous comparison. Being homosexual doesn't involve damaging your body or risking your health:

Binding for extended periods of time can lead to rashess^ or yeast infectionss^ under the breasts,[5][6]^ backk or chest painn^, shortness of breathh^, overheating, or, rarely, fracturedd^ ribs.[4] Additionally, some unconventional binding materials, such as duct tape or athletic bandages, are known to increase an individual's risk for negative health outcomes such as shortness of breath, musculoskeletal damage, and skin damage.[7] Unsafe binding may lead to permanent deformation of the breasts,[8] scarring, and lung constriction,[9] and long-term binding may adversely affect the outcome of a future mastectomyy^.[10]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_binding

Siblingquandary · 06/07/2021 16:38

@SirSamuelVimes

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

Sexual attraction / orientation is not.
Trans / non-binary identification is.
Anorexia & bulimia are.
Self harming is.

Yep

It's tedious how T tries to co-opt LGB

They're nothing alike.

Leafstamp · 06/07/2021 16:42

It's irresponsible of Emma, just like it's irresponsible when popstars and footballers behave badly. But it happens.

Young people are impressionable.

Behaviour like this from those in the public eye just make the jobs of parents, carers and schools even harder.

And is even more of a reason to stop schools teaching gender identity as fact and something that is somehow progressive. It's the opposite of both of those things.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 06/07/2021 16:52

@ScreamingMeMe

- Anorexic people are ill.

Yeah, no shit. Do you not think "pro ana" sites might make them worse?

Simply saying the comparison doesn't work. Unless you're saying trans people are ill...
MolyHolyGuacamole · 06/07/2021 16:54

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

And just because you say that trans ideology is, does not make it fact. But it fits your narrative to say so.

Leafstamp · 06/07/2021 17:30

@MolyHolyGuacamole

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

And just because you say that trans ideology is, does not make it fact. But it fits your narrative to say so.

Do you have any other theories for why there has been an explosion in girls and young women identifying as transgender but no such explosion in middle aged and older women?
HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 06/07/2021 17:37

This look like a young woman who wants to stay a child. It seems similar to anorexia in that sense. Not surprising it affects increasing numbers of teenage girls and young women.

FreeBritnee · 06/07/2021 17:40

@Siblingquandary

It's all a bit heroin chic.
That was also my first thought!
StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 06/07/2021 17:45

Do you have any other theories for why there has been an explosion in girls and young women identifying as transgender but no such explosion in middle aged and older women?

Exactly this. And I'm not middle aged or older either- I'm 33 yet I don't know a single woman who as an adult has chosen to go down this route.

It's either impressionable, vulnerable young girls. Or attention seeking celebrities like EC.

TheWeeDonkey · 06/07/2021 17:55

@Siblingquandary

It's all a bit heroin chic.
Very much so.

Also reminds me of Elliott Paige.

Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 06/07/2021 18:00

Glamourising equipment that painfully deforms the healthy breasts of young women.

How very progressive Hmm

Heidi1982 · 06/07/2021 18:09

@SirSamuelVimes

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

Sexual attraction / orientation is not.
Trans / non-binary identification is.
Anorexia & bulimia are.
Self harming is.

Also, sexual attraction is not harmful. Eating disorders are. Self harm is. Disfiguring or removing healthy body parts is.

And wtf does a NB woman need to reduce/remove her breasts whereas a NB man just needs to wear a dress or some lippy? It's the living embodiment of male as default.

postcardhell · 06/07/2021 18:36

This is horrifying. I guess if people want to do this kind of thing to themselves it's hard to stop them, but it's dangerously irresponsible for someone in Emma Corrin's position to glamorise harmful practices as "cool" and for newspapers to collude. Hopefully it's not some sick publicist's idea to promote EC's play (Anna X) which opens at the weekend.

MidsomerMurmurs · 06/07/2021 18:42

@MolyHolyGuacamole

same sort of thing thinspo does for anorexic people
  • Anorexic people are ill.

Influence young girls to do the same?

  • do you think reading about homosexuality influences others to be gay? Fair enough if you don't agree with Trans ideology (as breast binding is part of), but the idea that exposure will influence young people to follow is dangerous.
You repeatedly mention “ideology” on this thread. Good you’re acknowledging that’s what it is! But is damaging one’s body an inherent part of this ideology? Why doesn’t that apply to older “transwomen” who seem to see no need to modify their bodies (other than their hairstyle)?
TrainedByCats · 06/07/2021 22:19

If you just look at the pictures on the Daily Mail (which I understand have come from EC Instagram) you would assume they are sexualised glamour shots. You certainly wouldn't imagine they were put on instagram by a female with gender dysphoria

FemaleAndLearning · 06/07/2021 22:29

I think they are irresponsible photos. Not something that should be celebrated. Home made binders can do even more damage than bought binders. It is giving the impression that it is cool to bind and 'mess' about. The article is not at all balanced it doesn't mention the side effects of binding. There was no question as to why she was binding, we are only left to assume she has decided to identify as non-binary. But as with other posters I don't understand how non binary for females means deforming or getting rid of your breasts and defaulting to the male human form.