Emma Corrin (the young Princess Di) and breast binders

[Justme56]

"Emma Corrin is embracing a “new” and “intimate” journey as she reveals she has bought her first binder"

Article in the independent (sorry behind a paywall) about Emma who played the young Princess Di in 'The Crown'. Emma is also discussing this on her Instagram page (650k followers) highlighting where she buys hers from (gc:2b).

Maybe the students don't want to do PE in the first place.

And the UK has an obesity problem. So, your answer to teaching girls about healthy bodies is that if they don't want to do PE, that is ok then. Don't encourage girls to do sport, don't teach girls how to be active and improve their health.

Don't encourage girls to be responsible for their health, including their mental health because it has been proven for a very long time that mental health improves with activity.

Is your opinion that we should let children decide what is good for their health when it is clearly against known medical and scientific evidence?

Maybe there are a lot of teens who are tired of being told how they have to treat their bodies by other women

And maybe there is a whole lot of pressure being put on our daughters by media and people who do not have their best interests at heart to ignore proven medical health advice and to conform to a sexist society's expectations. And maybe other women are trying to actually point out these issues.

@Xoxoxoxoxoxox

Modelling was just starting to address the fact models were too thin and now they are introducing a new generation of models who have to remove all signs of their breasts and bind them away.

The fashion magazines love all this and have been promoting it heavily. High fashion has never liked female curves and now they have the perfect models, still with the attractive big eyes, full lips, fine hands and smooth skin of young women but with bodies shorn of curves and arrested in a prolonged state of youthful androgynousness.

@ThursdayWeld

I haven't advocated for double mastectomies

I just don't think that breast binding is particularly bad. I doubt we will agree on this, and I can't be bothered with a whole thread of people telling me I'm wrong, so will toddle off now.

No... but there is evidence that breast binding leads to enough damage that some surgeons are saying, well lets' remove them anyway.

It does seem that you are also unwilling to read any evidence that counters your view.

1. Every woman has she/they pronouns. That's how the English language works, ffs. Are we also making announcements about using commas and full stops to denote pauses and the ends of sentences?

2. I note she's self identified with the Qslur. Obviously, this can mean fucking anything these days, and it may simply mean she hates her breasts so much she's willing to physical harm herself to accommodate that self loathing. It could also mean she's been paid by a company or has agreed to endorse them to raise her profile. I know, right? As if anyone would be so cynical in the entertainment industry?

3. If she is, in fact, either lesbian or bi, we have yet another young gay woman who will be held up as a role model as she opts for cosmetic self harm, if not surgical self harm and yet more lesbians will get the loyd and clear message about their defectiveness as women.

Tres progressive. Much rainbow.

Good for her. Glad to see they are comfortable sharing as it will help so many people, especially young people, who have to fight with the idiots in their lives to be comfortable in their own skin.

Ermm I'm not sure how binding your breasts is a sign of being comfortable in your own skin?

Good for her. Glad to see they are comfortable sharing as it will help so many people, especially young people, who have to fight with the idiots in their lives to be comfortable in their own skin

Yet why is it the breasts every time? If someone wanted to remove an arm. Or a.leg..healthy ones would that be supported in the same way?

Is that being comfortable in their own skin?.or something dangerous ti be discouraged ?

@RaindropsOnRosie I believe you mean 'good for they'. And I see these inspirational posts about binders as the same as pro-anorexia posts or the endless focus on the bodies of love island contestants - they encourage young women to harm their bodies

@FloralBunting '2) I note she's self identified with the Qslur. Obviously, this can mean fucking anything these days, and it may simply mean she hates her breasts so much she's willing to physical harm herself to accommodate that self loathing. It could also mean she's been paid by a company or has agreed to endorse them to raise her profile. I know, right? As if anyone would be so cynical in the entertainment industry?'

In an industry that is now under far more pressure to use like-for-like casting, it's probably a good career move for a young actor or actress to start 'identifying' as the q-slur. It's a very vague term, one that doesn't require any actual proof, but will immediately gain you loads more vociferous young fans and may allow you to play straight, gay, bi and trans roles without a social media backlash.

specially young people, who have to fight with the idiots in their lives to be comfortable in their own skin.

This is like hypocritically saying 'living authentically' but making high health risk decisions that permanently change a healthy body.

In what way is this being 'comfortable in their own skin' wearing a device that even advocating sites for those product acknowledge

Across both studies, the majority of people (89-97%) reported experiencing at least one negative symptom from chest binding

Are you a fan of other causes of self-harm, or do you simply disbelieve the studies done by pro-binding organisations?

@ThursdayWeld

I don't see the harm.

It's probably no tighter than a sports bra for running.

My daughter wears a binder occasionally. There's very little flexibility in them, absolutely nothing like a sports bra.

@RaindropsOnRosie

Good for her. Glad to see they are comfortable sharing as it will help so many people, especially young people, who have to fight with the idiots in their lives to be comfortable in their own skin.

Lol the irony of this comment. Someone isn't comfortable in their own skin if they have to literally crush their breasts and ribs to be 'happy'. Highly doubt that anyone doing this is happy.

When the fuck is this nonsense going to stop? When are things going to stop being flipped on its head- you don't encourage people to be comfortable in their own skin by praising and fawning over breastbinding, by perpetuating lies that surgery and hormones will change you into a woman or vice versa- people need a dose of reality. It isn't possible to change sex. People are either born male or female and that's it- it's not fluid, it can't be changed. It's a reality. What we should do is help people come to terms with that if it is something they need some help with. Literally encourage them to accept their biological sex and make it clear that gender is bullshit- we should be fighting the stereotypes, not letting this ideology put us further into boxes.

So on the one hand we have young women pushed to get breast implants so they can get on love island and another set binding their breasts so “they can feel comfortable in their own skin”. Then the mother’s are told that we aren’t breast feeding we are chest feeding. Poor poor women our breasts are just never good enough are they?

As a consequence of feminist reading and doing sport, I'm extremely comfortable in my own skin, including the skin on my breasts.

Wearing a binder would be the opposite of that, and it's something I think I would have been tempted to do as a teenager who hated them back then, had I been givennthe opportunity.

“I just don't think that breast binding is particularly bad. I doubt we will agree on this, and I can't be bothered with a whole thread of people telling me I'm wrong, so will toddle off now.”

On a “moral” level I’ve no problem with women wanting to make their breasts appear smaller. I am sad that they have been conditioned to view their perfectly natural, healthy body negatively- but that’s not really on the individual. However, binders can be really bad for you from a physical health perspective, as outlined on this thread. I don’t think it’s on for Emma Corrin to be promoting them in such a one sided way.

Intimate journey whilst sharing on internet is an oxymoron to say the least! Attention seeking and irresponsible behaviour

@ThursdayWeld

Are we going to ban breast reductions too, while we're at it?

Have you read any of the information linked to you about the harm breast binding can do? There is no equivalence with an operation to reduce breast size.

This is the 21st century version of foot binding ; damaging and appalling.

I've got big boobs. They were big when they first arrived, they've only got bigger after a couple of kids.

I used to sleep on my front, with them pressed in a certain way to try and get them to be the 'right' shape. I bought minimiser bras, I tried wrapping myself in bandages (after watching Shakespeare in love and thinking that was worth a try). I wear sportsbras, I've even tried that weird band thing that's supposed to minimise bounce.

The bandages were by far the tightest, most invasive thing - leaving my skin marked like a poorly fitting bra, tingling and red.

I've learned to live with my boobs, I am comfortable in my own skin now. I certainly wasn't back when I was trying everything to hide them and change their shape though.

Breast binding crushes the breasts and deforms them, making it so that after a few years, there's basically no choice but surgery: a mastectomy or a reconstruction. It make the breasts less and less "socially acceptable" for viewing until the woman is on a surgical path. Breast binders are a brilliant plan, if you're a plastic surgeon trying to drum up business after the silicone melons look went out of fashion.

@Papyrus That picture is of tight-lacing, which became popular amongst some women in the mid-19th century, approx. It would have been totally impractical to do that for most working women, and it was in the mid-19th century that they started to introduce metal boning which made this tight-lacing possible. I guess you could have done it before that with whalebone and such, but you would risk breaking the corset.

I wonder what the difference is between those earlier corsets and these binders. Presumably no corset was designed to flatten the breast tissue in such a way.

@Kotatsu

I've got big boobs. They were big when they first arrived, they've only got bigger after a couple of kids.

I used to sleep on my front, with them pressed in a certain way to try and get them to be the 'right' shape. I bought minimiser bras, I tried wrapping myself in bandages (after watching Shakespeare in love and thinking that was worth a try). I wear sportsbras, I've even tried that weird band thing that's supposed to minimise bounce.

The bandages were by far the tightest, most invasive thing - leaving my skin marked like a poorly fitting bra, tingling and red.

I've learned to live with my boobs, I am comfortable in my own skin now. I certainly wasn't back when I was trying everything to hide them and change their shape though.

@Kotatsu Why does that happen? I'm curious to know why it can lead to a permanent growth in breast tissue. Hormones I assume?

Maybe there are a lot of teens who are tired of being told how they have to treat their bodies by other women

Imagine telling young women not to damage their bodies. The nerve!

Do you think the same about anorexia?

It’s not like the Mail don’t know…
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6450485/amp/Trans-activists-send-free-breast-binders-13-year-olds.html

Excellent. Maybe once she gets bored of promoting breast binders, she can start eroticising smoking, binge-drinking, overeating and female genital mutilation.