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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

And Barclays don't give a stuff either...

103 replies

ChristinaXYZ · 30/06/2021 15:19

The corporate wokeness is really getting me down. I am fortunate not to work for these companies but changing banks is harder than changing supermarkets especially when so many branches are closing. Barclays have really over-stepped with this bossy piece of bullying. This Barclays video that actually says you find it confusing? well you don't need to understand, just do the following (presumably without question!). It is just bullying, plain and simple.

twitter.com/carolinefff/status/1409837580078702592

OP posts:
EsmaCannonball · 30/06/2021 22:44

I've just seen a story on Twitter about an elderly street vendor in New York being assaulted, allegedly because he wouldn't replace his US flag for a Pride flag. It made me think that wasn't it about a month ago we were all hectored about flying flags being a cynical, jingoistic ploy to get votes or something only done by gammon thickos. Now organisations the western world over are too fucking terrified to do anything other than fly the Pride flag and parrot gender ideology. It's, again, very Orwellian; one moment flag-flying is performative or silly (something I would kind of agree with), the next moment it's, 'We'd better see THIS flag displayed in your window or we will fucking stomp on you!' I'd rather see flags displayed for pathetic reasons than displayed out of fear of the mob.

GAHgamel · 01/07/2021 06:42

@WhatyoutalkingaboutWillis

Thanks for the tip *@FlyPassed*.

Anyone know about First Direct?

I'm a very happy customer in terms of customer service, (although apparently they've been having technical issues over the last couple of days) but can't say about their general levels of wokeness. Their twitter logo is currently rainbow washed, if a lot more subtly than a lot of other ones I've seen, and it looks like they've tweeted about Pride Month, but also Carer's week, World Well-being week, and so on..
NewlyGranny · 01/07/2021 07:31

To me, the trifecta of: "Educate yourself; You don't need to understand; It's not the LGBT community's job to explain anything," translates to: " We reserve the right to change the approved ideology, terminology and code of practice without notice and pillory those who fail to keep up, which means everybody. You have been warned. "

MarchXX · 01/07/2021 08:00

@TheHandmadeTails

They’re a Stonewall Top 100 Employer. As we know Stonewall tell them off if they don’t do enough on social media, so helpfully Sionice wants allies to do their work for them.
^this, in spades^ Angry
Zeugma · 01/07/2021 08:46

Looking at the psychology of marketing, this leads to campaigns either being ignored i.e. it's a complete waste of your time and money, or it angers customers i.e. you lose customers

My instant reaction on watching this preposterous piece of crap was: just why exactly would I need to be an 'ally', or indeed put myself out to do anything at all, for this self-satisfied person who smugly patronises me and tells me I'm too stupid to understand something? Maybe it's just me but my instinct would be to do the precise opposite of what I'm being hectored to do, and as speedily and thoroughly as possible.

Barclays isn't my bank, thank God. I've been with First Direct for decades and always found them excellent but as PPs have said, I don't know what their wokery quotient is.

MsTSwift · 01/07/2021 08:49

Please don’t tell me first direct buy into this

Caffeinefirst · 01/07/2021 09:02

I imagine the staff who disagree with this internally will be too scared to say anything for fear of being “managed out”. I guess they’ve all been compelled to put pronouns in email signatures etc. And anything else that is demanded to prove you are an “ally”.

Childrenofthestones · 01/07/2021 09:08

Have you ever come across somebody that follows the doctrine of crt or the bigotry of trans gender
politics that hasn't been through the sausage factories that are modern British universities?
I think our only hope lies in the hands of the millions of non uni indoctrinated, working class, blue collar voters that can see the emperor is naked and are more than happy to say so.
You may find the Yuri Bezemov interview on You Tube interesting.

merrymouse · 01/07/2021 09:10

First Direct are part of HSBC which is a Stonewall company

"HSBC’s global LGBT+ Ally Programme is recognised for both its broad reach and visible nature across the Global business."

But also

www.onlineqatar.com/directory/banks/173-hsbc-qatar

"HSBC has been operating in Qatar since 1954. With an unrivalled global network and a rich heritage, HSBC is well positioned to play a leading role in the local economy and continue its commitment to the country’s development."

It's all pink washing.

merrymouse · 01/07/2021 09:11

And pink washing is a profitable business.

Zeugma · 01/07/2021 10:19

Yeah, I know First Direct is owned by HSBC. The small comfort is that they operate as a totally separate entity. But tbh I doubt there's any bank now that hasn't been forced to make some sort of obeisance to the ideology; it's just a matter of degree.

I can't help thinking of this from Harry Enfield:

Women! Know your limits!

BitMuch · 01/07/2021 12:09

The Barclays pronoun ads were discussed on BBC Politics Live today www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000xhg9/politics-live-01072021 from 23 minutes in.

Tesla73 · 01/07/2021 12:25

Blimey even Twitter are roasting them over this

twitter.com/BarclaysUK/status/1410153663486701576

FijiCavanaugh · 01/07/2021 12:27

Love Baroness Fox on Politics Live. What a legend!

pickingdaisies · 01/07/2021 12:39

Fiji, I was cheering her almost as loudly as I did for Andy Murray. And that young twerp who opined that Barclays only want the business of the woke under-30's ( my paraphrase). Well, I have a Barclays account, and I just can't wait to close it and tell them why.

yeahbutnaw · 01/07/2021 12:40

If you're compiling a list of people/organisations that don't buy into GC ideology - it's gonna be a pretty fecking long list.

Probably easier to make a list of organisations that do support GC ideology.

FeatheredHope · 01/07/2021 12:46

Considering Barclays has such an issue with its gender pay and hire gaps, is it incredibly cynical to wonder if their keenness on jumping on the erasure of gender bandwagons is because it massively works in their favour?

FloralBunting · 01/07/2021 12:51

The gadflies round these parts do make me laugh. Buzzing around achieving nothing more than mild irritation, but convinced they're achieving something. So funny.

Baroness Fox was fabulous.

pickingdaisies · 01/07/2021 12:53

Oho, just looked at the Twitter feed. It's not going very well for them, is it! Grin

LazyHorizon · 01/07/2021 12:54

@yeahbutnaw

If you're compiling a list of people/organisations that don't buy into GC ideology - it's gonna be a pretty fecking long list.

Probably easier to make a list of organisations that do support GC ideology.

Lol. Almost everyone in the wider public is GC. Maybe step outside the social media bubble and take a look.

Sooner or later, the wokewashing corporations will notice. Then they’ll start rowing it back.

GreyhoundG1rl · 01/07/2021 13:15

As ever, your arguments are as unconvincing as your username yeahbutnaw Grin.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 01/07/2021 13:21

@pickingdaisies

Oho, just looked at the Twitter feed. It's not going very well for them, is it! Grin
I'd only seen the OP's tweet, but having looked at Barclay's, ISWYM:

twitter.com/BarclaysUK/status/1410153663486701576

GreyhoundG1rl · 01/07/2021 13:27

Haha, they're being properly called on it. Why are banks involving themselves in this shite, anyway? Confused.

merrymouse · 01/07/2021 13:36

@yeahbutnaw

If you're compiling a list of people/organisations that don't buy into GC ideology - it's gonna be a pretty fecking long list.

Probably easier to make a list of organisations that do support GC ideology.

‘Gender critical ideology’, the belief that sex is relevant to equality legislation, is the law.

However, looking at data on pay I agree that many companies (including Barclays) aren’t doing enough to combat inequality.

merrymouse · 01/07/2021 13:38

@FeatheredHope

Considering Barclays has such an issue with its gender pay and hire gaps, is it incredibly cynical to wonder if their keenness on jumping on the erasure of gender bandwagons is because it massively works in their favour?
If you consider this from a financial point of view, much cheaper to pay Stonewall for a badge than to deal with the pay gap.